Here is an article a friend sent to me about ethoxyquin in dog food. Many of you know about it - what I found interesting is it lists dog food companies that have it in their fish meal by their suppliers.

http://www.truthaboutpetfood.com/articles/438/1/Risk-Ingredients-Not-Listed-on-Pet-Food-Labels/Page1.html

Nancy

Interesting that Natura is NOT on that list and the one brand the do make, Cal Natural, they preserve the fish vitamin E...

Also as you can see, All Diamond manufactured food ARE preserved with ethoxyquin...

Makes me glad I switched from Natural Balance to Innova.....

Natura is on the list - look under California Natural.

Nancy

I was surprised Diamond let the info out. They always tell you it's propriety information.

Nancy

Natura is on the list - look under California Natural.

Nancy

They ARE on this list, but their statement states that it's preserved with Vit E/Mixed tocopherols, I think that's what Bear meant.

Thanks for posting the link. There needs to be more information gathering like that IMO.

Thank you Nancy....

The Pet Food Industry is a nasty one...it is definitely about your sources for ingredients.... it is no different than us going to the supermarket and having choices on the brand we buy...Pet Food makers have choices too...

I've followed Pet Food for about 25 years now....the number of web sites and journals where consumers can get more information about the pet Food they buy has been growing every year....Thanks only to the industries lack of being able to take care of business and sell safe products....

I've watched this web site become one of the places to go for information...it was once a place where Diamond ruled, Pro Plan was God, to becoming a forum were the most intelligent pet owners feed RAW ....That didn't have to change...Diamond , Purina all got lost in making profit, vs putting out quality products....

I am sickened about the number of years I fed Pro Plan to Jazz, now to find out the fish meal most likely contained Ethoxyquin..She died of Cancer....

I'm really surprised at the Diamond response. Every time I've EVER contacted them, I have been told that their suppliers' preservation methods were proprietary information.

interesting note on the article...some pet food manufacturers said did they do NOT add ethoxyquin to any of their fish ingredients, BUT were not sure if their supplier added it or not...wouldn't you think it would wise for the manufacturer to find out what their suppliers are actually selling them and what is in what they buy??

interesting note on the article...some pet food manufacturers said did they do NOT add ethoxyquin to any of their fish ingredients, BUT were not sure if their supplier added it or not...wouldn't you think it would wise for the manufacturer to find out what their suppliers are actually selling them and what is in what they buy??


I think they know what their suppliers are selling them just like
Diamond knows. They just don't tell it to the public.

Nancy

I'm in the process of switching from TOTW Pacific Stream to Acana Pacifica & Acana Grasslands but I don't see Champion Foods, the maker of Acana & Orijen listed. Anyone know what Champion Foods take on added ethoxyquin is?

Both the Acana Grasslands & Pacifica contain fish but according to the Acana website they are fresh caught each day and do not need preservatives.

Wouldn't you think, unless the Acana plant is in a seaport, that the fish would have to get to the plant from the ocean on some sort of transport and would need to be preserved for the trip? Perhaps it is shipped on ice? Thoughts, comments?

Champion does not use ethoxyquin. I believe they use a natural preservative. I would trust Champion foods.

Nancy

I'm in the process of switching from TOTW Pacific Stream to Acana Pacifica & Acana Grasslands but I don't see Champion Foods, the maker of Acana & Orijen listed. Anyone know what Champion Foods take on added ethoxyquin is?

Both the Acana Grasslands & Pacifica contain fish but according to the Acana website they are fresh caught each day and do not need preservatives.

Wouldn't you think, unless the Acana plant is in a seaport, that the fish would have to get to the plant from the ocean on some sort of transport and would need to be preserved for the trip? Perhaps it is shipped on ice? Thoughts, comments?

That's what they told me.

Good article Nancy, thanks for posting!

If the dog food company is not adding ethoxyquin to their product they do not have to list it in the ingredients. Just because their fish supplier uses it does not mean they have to list it - even if they know about it.

I believe Champions fish comes from Canadian Lakes not the ocean. It is mentioned somewhere on their web site.

If the dog food company is not adding ethoxyquin to their product they do not have to list it in the ingredients. Just because their fish supplier uses it does not mean they have to list it - even if they know about it.

I believe Champions fish comes from Canadian Lakes not the ocean. It is mentioned somewhere on their web site.
Champion’s ingredients and foods are never preserved with Ethoxyquin or any other chemical preservative.
http://www.championpetfoods.com/faq/
Ethoxyquin is typically used as a preservative in fish ingredients, and is commonly found in fish ingredients produced within the United States. Champion uses two kinds of fish ingredients in – fresh fish, and fish meals.

FRESH FISH. Our fresh fish is caught wild within our region and arrives FRESH – which is defined as ‘never frozen and with no preservatives’. Our fresh fish never contain Ethoxyquin.

FISH MEALS. Ethoxyquin preservatives are common throughout the fish meal supply chain, so Champion works directly with our fish meal suppliers (no brokers or middlemen) and we pay them a premium to have our fish meals preserved with our proprietary blend of Vitamin E and botanical extracts. Our fish meals are never preserved with Ethoxyquin.

Champion’s Ethoxyquin standard is set at true trace level, not to exceed 5 ppm (parts per million) of Ethoxyquin, which is 0.0005%, or one half of one thousandth of 1% – the lower limit of what most certified laboratories are able to detect or measure.

I am sickened about the number of years I fed Pro Plan to Jazz, now to find out the fish meal most likely contained Ethoxyquin..She died of Cancer....


Cancer from Ethoxyquin does not usually show up at an injection site.

That would be caused by vaccine.

Cancer from Ethoxyquin does not usually show up at an injection site.

That would be caused by vaccine.

Jazz died of Lymphoma cancer...in was all through her...and the Lymph system is in the whole body...her liver, skin, and mouth all had tumors...that took her....I don't blame just Fish meals....I also gave her raw hide laced with toxins from second world nations.... that use arsenic to kill pests ...all these chemicals become a cocktail of lethal substances that over time the body just can't eliminate fast enough....

Yeah....rawhide scares me...I won't touch it!

For those looking at Grain free...On line stores in the US are now selling Horizon Legacy ....

I wrote to them about ethoxyquin ...and this was their answer..

Hello Pete,


Thank you for taking the time to contact Horizon Pet Nutrition.

We specify that only natural antioxidants are used with the fish in our formulas, and that it must be disclosed on the label. Should anything come through that does contain ethoxyquin, it is rejected at our plant.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Warm Regards,

Marcie Rawson

Administrative Assistant

Horizon Pet Nutrition

Stores now that have Horizon Grain free....

http://www.horizonpetfood.com/Products/dog_legacy.html

E-tailers are also selling Horizon Pet Nutrition

www.heartypet.com
www.k9cuisine.com
www.petfooddirect.com
www.thehungrypupp.com

I have a sample bag....must say it looks enticing to try. What do you think of it, Uplander??

For those looking at Grain free...On line stores in the US are now selling Horizon Legacy ....

I wrote to them about ethoxyquin ...and this was their answer..



Stores now that have Horizon Grain free....

http://www.horizonpetfood.com/Products/dog_legacy.html

E-tailers are also selling Horizon Pet Nutrition

www.heartypet.com
www.k9cuisine.com
www.petfooddirect.com
www.thehungrypupp.com

Thanks so much for the update on Horizon Legacy. I first read about it more than a year ago and wanted to try it. It wasn't available in the U.S.; so I e-mailed the company and asked if they had plans to sell it in the U.S. Originally they told me it would be available in fall of '08 in the states. I finally gave up waiting. I just checked their site and see that 2 stores in my area carry it.

I like that the carbohydrate is peas. It makes for a nice change from potato for those of us rotating grain-free formulas. It's definitely one I'll consider trying. Looks like it might be similarly priced to Orijen?

I have a sample bag....must say it looks enticing to try. What do you think of it, Uplander??


I like that they invested in state of the art manufacturing equipment and make their own product...and totally agree with LuckyLuna about the carb source...

Seeing I can buy a small bag on line from Patty/breeders friend at Heartypet.com I might try it....I like small start ups that have knowledgeable people in ownership...

I'm with LuckyLuna... I love that the carb source is peas rather than potatoes.

I'd love to try this food.

Let us know if the peas work for you. Peas can produce a lot of gas in some dogs but the probiotic in this food might make the difference. I'm not sure about "fenugreek protein meal", fenugreek supplements are sometimes given by breeders to increase milk production. Fenugreek contains a phytoestrogen diosgenin.