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caseygirl 04-05-2008, 07:31 AM We need to put Casey on a bland diet. So I boiled some ground beef and cooked up some rice.
My question is does this mean that i can't give her PB or treats?
kallie 04-05-2008, 07:58 AM What is wrong with her, that you had to start her on a bland diet?
caseygirl 04-05-2008, 08:25 AM She was chewing on a soup bone. Before I knew it, she was breaking of tiny pieces and eating them. I called he vet and he said to put her on a bland diet and give her 1 Amodium ID table three times a day.
ZenCat 04-05-2008, 09:00 AM She was chewing on a soup bone. Before I knew it, she was breaking of tiny pieces and eating them. I called he vet and he said to put her on a bland diet and give her 1 Amodium ID table three times a day.
Wow, the Imodium really surprises me. Does she have diarrhea already? I would think that if the vet has concerns about obstruction from the soup bone fragments he'd want her to be able to pass it... the Imodium is an anti-diarrhea medicine which decreases intestinal motility and is not recommended if there is risk of obstruction.
Did your vet suggest how long to keep her on a bland diet, because this, again, is generally recommended when a dog has diarrhea or vomiting or other gastric distress. Also, how long does he want you to give the Imodium?
If it were me, I'd probably call and ask these questions. In the meantime, I think if she's got diarrhea or vomiting, you should discontinue PB or other treats.
Loperamide (Immodium, Kaopectate)
Veterinary & Aquatic Services Department, Drs. Foster & Smith, Inc.
Summary
Loperamide is used in the treatment of diarrhea and inflammatory bowel disease in dogs. Can cause severe side effects in cats. Contact your veterinarian if the diarrhea is severe, accompanied by vomiting, the pet is also depressed, there is blood in the stool or the diarrhea worsens or persists for more than 48 hours. Also contact your veterinarian if your pet experiences constipation, depression, or slowed heart or breathing rates while being treated with loperamide.
Generic Name
Loperamide
Brand Names
Immodium, Immodium AD, Pepto Diarrhea
Control, Kaopectate II Caplets
Type of Drug
Narcotic antidiarrheal (considered nonaddictive)
Indications for Use
Treatment of diarrhea, inflammatory bowel disease
General Information
Not FDA approved for use in veterinary medicine. Not recommended for use in cats. Available over the counter. Opiate antidiarrheal products are useful in treating diarrhea in dogs. They decrease intestinal motility and reduce secretions caused by certain factors such as toxins. If the diarrhea persists for more then 48 hours or the pet does not continue to be active and alert, contact your veterinarian. Further treatment may be needed. Contact your veterinarian before using over the counter products as some may have ingredients which may harm your pet. The treatment of diarrhea includes fluid replacement and often withholding food. Contact your veterinarian for advice.
Usual Dose and Administration
Dogs: 0.05-0.1 mg/pound by mouth every 8 hours. Treatment should only be needed for 1-2 days. If diarrhea persists or worsens, contact your veterinarian.
Side Effects
May see constipation, bloat, or sedation. Rarely see paralytic ileus (intestines lose ability to move ingesta along), pancreatitis, or central nervous system (CNS) effects.
Contraindications/Warnings
Do not use in patients hypersensitive (allergic) to opiates/narcotics.
Use with caution in patients with hypothyroidism, kidney disease, hypoadrenocorticism (Addison's disease), respiratory disease, glaucoma, gastrointestinal obstruction, urinary obstruction or liver disease.
Use with care in older or debilitated patients.
Do not use in patients with diarrhea secondary to toxin ingestion until the toxin is cleared from the intestines.
Do not use in patients with head traumas or abdominal pain as it may mask other serious symptoms and disorders.
Not for use in pregnant or nursing animals.
Use only under veterinarian's supervision in cats since it can cause agitation and excitement.
Not used in certain cases of infectious diarrhea such as those caused by Salmonella.
Drug or Food Interactions
Do not use with monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs).
Do not use with other CNS depressants such as antihistamines, tranquilizers, or antiseizure medications.
No known food interactions.
Overdose/Toxicity
May see constipation, CNS depression, or slowed heart or respiratory rates.
kallie 04-05-2008, 09:35 AM She was chewing on a soup bone. Before I knew it, she was breaking of tiny pieces and eating them. I called he vet and he said to put her on a bland diet and give her 1 Amodium ID table three times a day.
Ditto to what Zencat said...You would want the dog to PASS the bones. I'm very puzzled over why the vet recommended Imodium and at such an amount also.?? Does she have or should I say did she have diarrhea? I would not give the Imodium, just me..Poor pup is going to be so stopped up, then trying to pass bone fragments, not sure what this vet was thinking..:eek:
I would stick to just bland, no treats or PB..Your pup should not have to stay on a bland diet long, and not sure why this was recommended either..Unless she was throwing up and had severe diarrhea??
caseygirl 04-05-2008, 12:49 PM She still has diarrhea. The vet said to keep her on the bland diet for three days and the amodium for three as well. Now that i think about it. it doesn't make sense giving her the amodium...I guess is was so nervous I just did what the vet said.
She has mucus (no blood) in her diarrhea the first night and into the next morning.
Also, the ladies at the vet made me feel like an a$$ for giving her that bone and were very short with me on the phone. They made it seem that I was wasting their time...That almost makes me want to switch to a different vet...
I guess I'll call them on Monday if she still has diarrhea then...
There shouldn't be any obstructions since she is still having BM's right?
ZenCat 04-05-2008, 01:10 PM She still has diarrhea. The vet said to keep her on the bland diet for three days and the amodium for three as well. Now that i think about it. it doesn't make sense giving her the amodium...I guess is was so nervous I just did what the vet said.
She has mucus (no blood) in her diarrhea the first night and into the next morning.
Also, the ladies at the vet made me feel like an a$$ for giving her that bone and were very short with me on the phone. They made it seem that I was wasting their time...That almost makes me want to switch to a different vet...
I guess I'll call them on Monday if she still has diarrhea then...
There shouldn't be any obstructions since she is still having BM's right?
Not necessarily. My lab had an undetected obstruction that he got as a puppy (I adopted him at 18 mos). It was in there for a year and a half and he never had a single problem with his poops, only vomiting/weight loss/inability to gain weight.
I feel that its very important to have a good, trusting, respectful relationship with your vet. If you don't feel it where you are, you should feel free to find somewhere else.
I still have an issue with Imodium being prescribed for a possible obstruction. At the risk of being out of bounds, I'd recommend continuing on the bland diet for a few days but skipping the Imodium. The bland diet alone should be enough to settle her stomach, if not then I'd recommend you get her to the vet (or a new vet) again.
kallie 04-05-2008, 03:00 PM She still has diarrhea. The vet said to keep her on the bland diet for three days and the amodium for three as well. Now that i think about it. it doesn't make sense giving her the amodium...I guess is was so nervous I just did what the vet said.
She has mucus (no blood) in her diarrhea the first night and into the next morning.
Also, the ladies at the vet made me feel like an a$$ for giving her that bone and were very short with me on the phone. They made it seem that I was wasting their time...That almost makes me want to switch to a different vet...
I guess I'll call them on Monday if she still has diarrhea then...
There shouldn't be any obstructions since she is still having BM's right?
I DITTO Zencat again:D I would hold off with the Imodium also, as the bland diet should take care of the stomach issues..It was probably the marrow in the marrow bone that caused the diarrhea, not the bone itself.
If the diarrhea continues, just make a vet trip. I also agree that is is VERY important that you have faith in your vet..
crznsnshine03 04-05-2008, 03:20 PM Don't let them make you feel that way. I work at a vet and I asked my vet what he thought about Soup bones/Marrow bones. He said as long as they don't splinter they are ok but to watch for it. I give Sumo marrow bones all the time he licks the stuff out of the middle and when I catch him chewing I take them away. And the Imodium doesn't make any sense to me either, especially if there is a chance of an obstruction.
Brodi's Mommy 04-18-2008, 10:21 AM I'll ask in this thread as well. What all is in a bland diet? Cottage Cheese, boiled chicken, boiled ground beef, scrambled eggs, white rice, oatmeal, how about frozen veggies??
ZenCat 04-18-2008, 11:44 AM A bland diet is an easily digestible, simple diet recommended during periods of illness or recovery. It almost always consists of either boiled or steamed hamburger or chicken, and well-cooked rice. No eggs, no veggies, no treats.
This isn't a long term maintenance diet.
A dog on a long term bland diet would generally be eating a limited ingredient dog food (same idea: single meat protein, single carbohydrate) which would then be fortified with vitamins & minerals to meet all the dog's nutritional needs over time).
Brodi's Mommy 04-18-2008, 12:47 PM But he did tell me scrambled eggs...???? but i'm going to go get some meat and rice right now. And I had oatmeal in my head for some reason, but Oatmeal probably has too much fiber.
Thanks everyone
Brodi's Mommy 04-18-2008, 01:43 PM ewww...boiled hamburger meat does not taste good. YACK!
ZenCat 04-18-2008, 03:08 PM ewww...boiled hamburger meat does not taste good. YACK!
LOL. I'll bet Brodi won't mind :D
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