View Full Version : Cancer Starving Diets (re: EVO)
jcatkc 12-23-2004, 06:43 AM On another Dog Forum, they had a thread discussing EVO. One member said that "cancers/tumors feed off of glucose and carbohydrates, but cannot process protein and fats. Higher protein/lower carb diets are commonly called "cancer starving diets."
Another member wrote that Laurie Kaplan who wrote the book "Help Your Dog Fight Cancer" also said that EVO was one to look at.
I had been considering switching from regular Innova to Canidae, but was wondering if EVO was a better way to go? Some of you may suggest that BARF is an even better way to go, but I am still not convinced about feeding raw and/or home cooked.
Since I am one of those who is extremely scared of cancer in pets and also is one who has experienced a pet with advanced cancer (I was there at the vet, holding Raven in my arms, while they gave her the injection to put her to sleep), I am trying to do the best for my Bailey.
I may be redundant here - but before I started to become "nutritionally aware" I was "nutritionally stupid" when I fed my cancer-ridden Raven "Kibbles n' Bits", thinking that since they sold it in grocery stores, it just couldn't be bad. Now I know better, I hope.
So, my question finally is - are we flirting with the possibility of cancer in our pets if we feed our dogs a significant amount of grains (ie. carbs)?
duckbagger 12-23-2004, 07:16 AM If this statement was true consider the implications:
The US Government and the FDA have been cohoots to set up a food pyramid that causes cancer by recommending the comsumption of mostly carbohydrates, that will then require medical attention primarily pharmaceuticals, which are so expensive that many people can't afford them, then the Feds need more tax dollars for medicade and medicare to pay for all of the cancer related illness, and then they distract us by telling that cancer is due to enviornmental issues like global warming and pesticides/hebicides, blah, blah, blah. If that ain't the beginning of a conspiracy theory, then I don't know what else it is.
Trust me I am a low-carb believer, but I have never heard that cancer/tumors feed off of sugar. If it were that simple, then cancer should have been erradicated by now.
Originally posted by jcatkc
On another Dog Forum, they had a thread discussing EVO. One member said that "cancers/tumors feed off of glucose and carbohydrates, but cannot process protein and fats. Higher protein/lower carb diets are commonly called "cancer starving diets."
jcatkc 12-23-2004, 07:20 AM Originally posted by duckbagger
If this statement was true consider the implications:
The US Government and the FDA have been cohoots to set up a food pyramid that causes cancer by recommending the comsumption of mostly carbohydrates...
But isn't the FDA food pyramid just for humans? I have yet to find anywhere (I posted this question to this forum) a food pyramid or basic food groups for dogs.
ZenCat 12-23-2004, 07:29 AM I respectfully disagree with duckbagger's response to this particular question. Though as a matter of fact a great many studies do show that cancer feeds off sugar/high glycemic carbohydrates. But sifting through all the opinions is a challenge for another day ;)
But here we're discussing dogs (rather than people), who are biologically carnivorous. They would not naturally eat a diet composed primarily of grain; they eat a diet composed primarily of grain because a clever bunch of corporations figured out how to make a profit off the waste foods not considered fit for human consumption and the Pet Food Industry was born.
Since we have been feeding our carnivorous pets a diet overloaded with a food they are not biologically designed to process, a great many of them get sick a lot.
I believe the reason we feed our dogs kibble is because it's easier for us, and in some cases, cheaper. And because we fall for the marketing. Not because it's right for them.
My dogs eat a grain-free kibble (Natural Balance Duck & Potato) because their health improved when I removed grains from their diet (they had different symptoms). I would feed them a homemade or raw diet (and did previously) only meat prices escalated to the point where I could no longer afford it.
I see no reason not to try EVO. :)
ZenCat 12-23-2004, 07:36 AM Duckbagger... incidentally, there are a lot of people who are at risk for serious health issues including cancer were we to follow the FDA food pyramid and eat a diet composed primarily of carbohydrates.
My son and I (along with countless others around the globe) have Celiac Disease. Unless we remove all grains/gluten (except corn and rice) from our diet, we suffer a large number of painful and even debilitating symptoms, including ultimately cancer.
Black Labbies 12-23-2004, 06:45 PM Originally posted by jcatkc
I have yet to find anywhere (I posted this question to this forum) a food pyramid or basic food groups for dogs.
This book has one in it:
http://home.earthlink.net/~affenbar/
Since EVO is the nearest commercially available dog food to a raw diet, I'd give it a try, too.
For Duckbagger:
The Deadly Effect of Sugar on our bodies is astounding. For years people have consumed sugar, not realizing the effects it has on our bodies. The scientific community has done numerous studies, especially on refined sugar, and the results are astounding. Over-consumption of sugar can contribute to everything from deactivation of the immune system to tooth decay and periodontal disease. The deadly effects of sugar number more than we would like to imagine. However, with proper diet and by limiting our consumption of sugars we can enjoy good health for years to come.
And:
http://www.y2khealthanddetox.com/petcare.html
Chewdog 12-24-2004, 08:56 AM My year old female chocolate lab, Luca Bella, is currently on EVO. I have been feeding her the regular Innova from day one. I went to the store to buy her a new bag of Innova but they were sold out of the Innova adult because they were running a $3 off special. So I bought her a bag of the EVO. She has only been eating it for three days, but she seems to be doing fine on it. It is too soon to get any real results, but so far so good.
http://www.picvault.info/images/17256_whipped.jpg
McBainandLoki'sMom 12-28-2004, 06:22 AM I agree with Zencat completely.
Cancer needs a mutation to begin (usually more than one mutation - aka the "Two Hit Theory of Cancer", so unless you or your dog have cancer already eating sugar and carbs makes no difference. After that... who knows!
Eating a healthy BIOLOGICALLY APPROPRIATE diet is important for all aspects of health weather your dog or person.
Much of what causes cancer is chemicals (Carcinogens) not necessarily specific foods, it's the chemically altered and refined foods that can cause mutations that lead to cancer. Broccolli won't give you cancer, but the pesticides it's sprayed with may.
ZenCat 12-28-2004, 01:25 PM Well said, McBain's Mom.
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