I am on Canidae's email list waiting patiently for the email saying when they will be releashing the new line of food and they sent me an email about a $5 off coupon and the promise that it will be in the stores(well at least the ones that carry Canidae)in the next couple of weeks.:tapfoot: I am waiting....we are getting to the bottom of the current bag of dog food.

lol i may have enough of normal ALS to make it til they bring out the grain free, got a bag and a 1/8th of the old formula still :)

what is the email adress

what is the email adress

Just go to there website www.canidae.com and get on their email list.I emailed them asking about their grain free line of food then the email came about the coupon.The local feed store that carries Canidae is expecting to get a shipment next friday:D

thanks for the info!!!! just registered...question, what are the benefits of grain free and which kind of dogs should use it??? sorry for the questions, just always wanting to learn.

The grain a dog would eat in the wild is very trivial, basicly only from the gut of whatever the dog is eatting, such as a rabbit that just ate grains/grasses. The feeling is that the dog doesn't get anything out of the grains. A dog on a grain free food would eat less since the food has more to offer per cup, also the dog would need to "poop" less if all went well.

I personally look forward to trying this, my dog goes to the bathroom around 5 times a day and I think would benefit from less fillers

As I understand it and I may be wrong. Please correct if I am.

I am not so sure about the benefit of replacing whole grains with potatoes. Potatoes are just another carbohydrate. Using the logic that dogs won't eat grains in the wild, they wouldn't eat Potatoes either but there seems to be more meat meal and less carbs in grain free ALS then normal ALS

Potatoes are the main non meat ingredient.

Potatoes in a human diet increase blood sugar on par with refined white sugar. The blood sugar rise and peek caused by eating potatoes very closely correlates to the rise and peak caused by eating pure sugar. Whole grains cause a slow rise in sugar levels without the fast rise and peak of sugar. Control of blood sugar levels and preventing peaks are important to diabetics.

I am not sure how this translates to dogs or if the amount of pototes the food contains would cause sharp blood sugar spikes but if I had a diabetic dog I would be careful and gather further information but in general, the less carbs the better.

Luke has been on a variety of foods and green beans to keep his weight down.I was getting weary of being told he is to fat,he was never obese but according to the vet he needs to loose a few pounds cut his food.I did not want to cut him to a cup a day,so I switched him to a grain free kept him at his normal amount two cups a day and he has dropped weight and is looking good.I am excited about Canidae coming out with a grain free because it will most likely be a little more reasonable priced than TOTW.

Does anyone having pricing on the grain free?

Does anyone having pricing on the grain free?

My understanding is that it will run around $60 for the largest bag (30 pounds?)

Wow, thats going to be quite expensive. I feed Canidae ALS, and have just had them on another this week with samples to try them out, it's called Taste of the Wild which also is grain free. This is the one mine are going on now, figure I will bounce them back and forth every so often. It too isn't cheap, I paid 42 something for this tonight, but they like it so figured they would injoy a bit of a change.
http://www.tasteofthewildpetfood.com/

wow that IS expensive...I thought it was going to be cheaper than the usual ALS..35lb of current ALS is $35!!! That's almost DOUBLE:eek::eek:!

My understanding is that it will run around $60 for the largest bag (30 pounds?)

WOW!! That is alot to pay for a 30# sack of food......Luke may end up staying on the TOTW.I'll have to admit I am a little disapointed with Canidae:(

wow that IS expensive...I thought it was going to be cheaper than the usual ALS..35lb of current ALS is $35!!! That's almost DOUBLE:eek::eek:!

Grain free is ALWAYS more expensive than its counterparts. More meat= more money.

My dogs do best on grain free but did horribly on Canidae's regular line. We will NOT be trying Canidae's grain free.

Grain free is ALWAYS more expensive than its counterparts. More meat= more money.

My dogs do best on grain free but did horribly on Canidae's regular line. We will NOT be trying Canidae's grain free.

In which way do they do better on the grain free? Do they have smaller stool volume??

In which way do they do better on the grain free? Do they have smaller stool volume??

Smaller stool volume, less stinky stool (IMO it all stinks- it's poop after all- but less so), more formed stool (everyone may think their dog's current stool is formed but I would venture to guess that if you tried grain free you would be surprised how much better it can get), their teeth don't gather as much tartar, coats are better...

This is coming from someone whose oldest dog is almost 4 and has tried Puppy Chow (yes I am serious- :D), Innova, Raw diet, Nature's Logic, Nature's Variety Instinct, EVO, Timberwolf, Canidae, Eagle Pack Holistic. We rotate quite a bit and I can say with 1000% certainty that my dogs did best on raw (in regards to the above mentioned qualities) but a VERY close second was Timberwolf, Nature's Logic and EVO which are all grain free.

I had to switch to non grain free for cost reasons and I despise it.

My one female lab tends to have BIG stools! LOL My other two are on Calif. Natural Lamb & Rice and have small firm stools. I was looking at Merrick grain free and Wellness core. Have you tried Merrick before?

My one female lab tends to have BIG stools! LOL My other two are on Calif. Natural Lamb & Rice and have small firm stools. I was looking at Merrick grain free and Wellness core. Have you tried Merrick before?

I swear even if you think your two have small stools now you will be seriously amazed when/if you switch to grain free. And, the one with larger stools you will be even more amazed. ;)

I haven't tried Merrick- grain free or otherwise. When I worked at a pet supply store that only carried premium brands, and we did carry Merrick, we had very few customers who spoke their praises. The dogs that did well on it did very well and those that tried to introduce it didn't fare well at all- gas and stool issues. This is only in regards to the kibble- everyone loved their canned.

Before I left that position at the store I wanted to try Wellness Core (we got discounts on food). Never got around to it and can't afford it right now but I would be more apt to try it than Merricks but that is just my personal opinion and not based on any facts.

I'll need to look into them some more. I'll probably try a grain free for Autumn since the other two are doing really well on the Calif. Natural.

As I understand it and I may be wrong. Please correct if I am.

I am not so sure about the benefit of replacing whole grains with potatoes. Potatoes are just another carbohydrate. Using the logic that dogs won't eat grains in the wild, they wouldn't eat Potatoes either but there seems to be more meat meal and less carbs in grain free ALS then normal ALS

Potatoes are the main non meat ingredient.

Potatoes in a human diet increase blood sugar on par with refined white sugar. The blood sugar rise and peek caused by eating potatoes very closely correlates to the rise and peak caused by eating pure sugar. Whole grains cause a slow rise in sugar levels without the fast rise and peak of sugar. Control of blood sugar levels and preventing peaks are important to diabetics.

I am not sure how this translates to dogs or if the amount of pototes the food contains would cause sharp blood sugar spikes but if I had a diabetic dog I would be careful and gather further information but in general, the less carbs the better.


Personally, this is also why I don't go grain-free (in addition to the fact that when I feed my lab food with potatoes, which I tried for a week, and within that week, my lab ended up with really brownish waxy ears - yeast infection). For higher meat content food, I will go for Nature's Logic. Again, based on feeding result, he can handle millet.

For higher meat content food, I will go for Nature's Logic. Again, based on feeding result, he can handle millet.The brains behind Nature's Logic (same fellow who came up with NV Instinct - really intersting guy) would definitely agree. "Grain free" is the sexy marketing term, but "low carb" is probably a better description and would allow you to compare carb sources objectively.

BTW, in terms of poop output, I'm not sure you can equate grain-free (or even low-carb) with smaller poop. Some here rotate among low-carb grain-free and CN (a grain heavy food) and don't see a difference. I like Nature's Logic a lot for my own dogs, but nothing compares to the teeny-tiny pooplets from Pro Plan Performance. which is somewhat low-carb but definitely not grain free. ;)

WOW!! That is alot to pay for a 30# sack of food......Luke may end up staying on the TOTW.I'll have to admit I am a little disapointed with Canidae:(OK, today's "revised estimate" is that it will at least start out in the $50s. Ingredient/production costs are about 50% higher than the regular formulas.

I just bought the grain-free Salmon at my usual feed store yesterday. $48.99 for the 30lb bag. They had just taken delivery of it that weekend.

My Murphy has been on grain-free Nat Bal switching between the venison and salmon formulas; his poop smells horrible, but his itchy skin has cleared up. I'm hoping the Canidae grain-free will solve this problem.

i just got my first bag yesterday...30lbs was $49.99...I went with the Grain Free ALS with chicken, turkey, lamb...i was thinking about the salmon version, but it was $5 more and was concerned that it might make a more difficult transition.

So far so good...they seem to like it...i was disappointed with the size of the kibble, kind of small

I'm interested in the Salmon line they are coming out with too, but have concerns about 40% protein vs the standard 24% you normally see.

Any thoughts anyone?

I'm interested in the Salmon line they are coming out with too, but have concerns about 40% protein vs the standard 24% you normally see.

Any thoughts anyone?

I agree...That was one of the reasons I went with the ALS Grain Free instead of the Salmon Grain Free...the ALS version only has 34% and 18% fat...I just wish the ALS grain free only had one protein source

Mine have been on it two days and and seem to be doing well...no upset stomachs or loose stools yet. I'm keeping my fingers crossed

I agree...That was one of the reasons I went with the ALS Grain Free instead of the Salmon Grain Free...the ALS version only has 34% and 18% fat...I just wish the ALS grain free only had one protein source

Mine have been on it two days and and seem to be doing well...no upset stomachs or loose stools yet. I'm keeping my fingers crossed

Have you tried Pro Plan Selects Salmon and Brown Rice? My allergic one eats it and does excellent with it. You can do a search on it here on the board, quite a bit of good info.

I have a chihuahua that we adopted in November 2007. She would be fine for two weeks, get diarreah and stop eating. I'd feed her rice and chicken a few days and she would be fine on kibble for 2 weeks then it would start over again. This went on for months. After blood work, fecals and a biopsy that were all normal she was diagnosed with a really sensitive stomach. The vet put her on a pepcid every day and RX Z/D food.

After a few months on the RX food, I tried her on grain free and she did great. I guess it was the grains that bothered her. She can't even take a supplement with grains or flowers in it. I tried her on California Natural a couple of months ago and she resorted back to her ok for two weeks then diarreah routine.

It was back to grain free for her. This time around I went with Wellness Core and she's doing great. I feed my other 2 small ones the Core. Noel and my other big dog eat Blue Buffalo. I can't afford to feed all 5 grain free, but I think Noels coat and poops looked better when I did.

I don't think it's a matter of what's best. I think what's more important is what does your dog do best on. As far as grain free, my big dogs did best on Taste of the Wild. As for a food with grains, I believe they are doing better on Blue Buffalo than anything else we've tried. Noel did good on California Natural, but Max didn't. His poops never did firm up and he's always been the one with perfect poops. So far so good on the Blue Buffalo. They both have solid poops and a good looking coat.

The Canidae grain free has not been good for Murphy. He's had horrible gas and I think he's losing weight. I'm going back to Nat Bal grain free formulas.

My other two do great on the Canidae Platinum for chunky mutts.