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ebaby
09-07-2009, 05:22 PM
noticed this food at walmart. Curious what do you think of the ingredients. It didn't look too bad. It wasn't cheap either

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein22.0% (min)Crude Fat10.0% (min)Crude Fiber4.0% (max)Moisture10.0% (max)Ash7.50% (max)Calcium1.20% (min)Phosphorus1.0% (min)Copper13.0 mg/kgVitamin A13,370 IU/kgVitamin D1,340 IU/kgVitamin E136.0 IU/kg*Omega 3 fatty acids0.25%(min)*Omega 6 fatty acids1.50% (min)

*Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profile
Calorie Content: Metabolized Energy (calculated) 3,660 Kcals/kg
Ingredients: Lamb Meal, Ground Brown Rice, Oatmeal, Ground Grain Sorghum, Poultry Fat (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, citric acid, and ascorbyl palmitate - a Vitamin C ester), Ground Flax Seeds, Natural Flavors, Linseed Meal, Dried Beet Pulp, Potassium Chloride, Dried Kelp, Choline Chloride, DL-Methionine,Yucca Schidigera Extract, Natural Antioxidants,Vitamin Supplements (E,A,B2,B12,D3), Niacin, Calcium Ascorbate, Calcium Pantothenate,Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Inositol, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Biotin, Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Oxide, Ferrous Sulfate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Cobalt Proteinate, Potassium Iodide, Sodium Selenite, Rosemary Extract.

bearsowner
09-07-2009, 07:26 PM
Not bad, but a grain based food even though lamb meal is the first ingredient. Only suspect ingredient is the Ground Grain Sorghum... also they are using Ground Flax Seeds for the omega oils source...omega oil from fish is better IMHO...

Doppler
09-07-2009, 08:04 PM
I don't have a problem with sorghum (http://www.petfoodindustry.com/ViewArticle.aspx?id=11616#Scene_1), you may see it more of it in the future but you should look up this ingredient "Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity)" to see if you are comfortable feeding it. It's the one ingredient that would bother me.

bearsowner
09-07-2009, 08:21 PM
"Some species of sorghum can contain levels of hydrogen cyanide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_cyanide), hordenine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hordenine) and nitrates lethal to grazing animals in the early stages of the plant's growth. Stressed plants, even at later stages of growth, can also contain toxic levels of cyanide."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorghum

Thanks, but no thanks, will still avoid foods that contain sorghum. Actually it is used by pet food mfgs. because it is cheaper than corn! :eek:

Doppler
09-07-2009, 08:31 PM
Perhaps you should be reading about commercial sorghum, the 5th most important cereal crop in the world (US is one of the top 3 producers): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_sorghum

Watch out for green potatoes in grain-free foods, they're toxic.

CanyonLabradors
09-07-2009, 09:27 PM
"Some species of sorghum can contain levels of hydrogen cyanide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_cyanide), hordenine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hordenine) and nitrates lethal to grazing animals in the early stages of the plant's growth. Stressed plants, even at later stages of growth, can also contain toxic levels of cyanide."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorghum

Thanks, but no thanks, will still avoid foods that contain sorghum. Actually it is used by pet food mfgs. because it is cheaper than corn! :eek:

So when you read this:
Some species of sorghum can contain levels of hydrogen cyanide, hordenine and nitrates lethal to grazing animals in the early stages of the plant's growth. Stressed plants, even at later stages of growth, can also contain toxic levels of cyanide.

You automatically think that those species are what they use for commercial food use? Don't be so sad and distrustful.

Doppler
09-07-2009, 10:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o0ExGXfs2o

ebaby
09-08-2009, 05:00 AM
I checked on dog food analysis and it only gets 2 stars. Also has citric acid which I guess can cause bloat in large dogs. So I would ultimately pass on this food.

bearsowner
09-08-2009, 06:24 AM
So when you read this:


You automatically think that those species are what they use for commercial food use? Don't be so sad and distrustful.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Okay my sadness has turned into happiness!!! see the smile?

Distrustful? That I am..."When it comes to making the almighty buck, be careful who you trust..." quote - unquote ME! ;)


ebaby, good move to pass on the food...