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    Quote Originally Posted by krosen View Post
    You can't even find canned green tripe???
    Nope.

    And, personally, I don't feed my dog raw because that's what my dog would eat if he were a wolf. It's obvious he is not a wolf, nor does he live in the wild. I feed raw because I want to avoid all the chemicals contained in processed foods, and I don't cook the meat for two reasons, for one it's more practical, and second, I can feed bones (and not worry about calcium and tartar). I also add a handful of white rice for carbs (when he is very active, that is, in the summer). As for veggies, if they weren't digested, I would be finding traces of them in his poop (which I don't), and I feel more comfortable with adding some veggies (vitamins, minerals, antioxidants and all the other goodies).

    And then again, it's just me, and my dog doesn't complain (gas, tummy issues etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by krosen View Post
    You can't even find canned green tripe??? and I don't believe even cooked veggies are digested, but that's just my opinion based on my readings. Even if dogs could digest cooked veggies, would they ever get cooked veggies in the wild? Although I say that but do understand not everyone feeds raw because they want their dog to eat like they do in the wild.

    You may be able to ask a pet food store to order canned green tripe for you. I often buy the canned because it's not easy to buy fresh here.
    Dogs are not wild. They've been domesticated for ten thousand plus years. And dogs are more scavenger like than the brave hunters you're making them out to be. Beyond a rabbit or mice or chipmunks, they mostly scavenge. Think road kill. When they approached man in the beginning, they ate leftovers that were thrown to them. Cooked, too. And these "wild dogs" you speak of, where? In the Urban Jungle? They live out of dumpsters, trash cans and handouts.

    As far as fruits and veggies, you bet they eat them if left to their own devices. One of our members here has a dog that raids the green beans off the vine. I've had dogs that would raid my tomatoes. She'd pick the best ones, lie down with it between her paws and enjoy. And I had one that used to love to shake the branches of the mulberry trees we had, to get them on the ground to eat.

    So please. Dogs will do fine on raw meats, but do not buy into this "wild prey" thing. They're not wild, and veggies and fruits are absolutely fine. Grated or cooked, or even raw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sue View Post
    Dogs are not wild. They've been domesticated for ten thousand plus years. And dogs are more scavenger like than the brave hunters you're making them out to be. Beyond a rabbit or mice or chipmunks, they mostly scavenge. Think road kill. When they approached man in the beginning, they ate leftovers that were thrown to them. Cooked, too. And these "wild dogs" you speak of, where? In the Urban Jungle? They live out of dumpsters, trash cans and handouts.

    As far as fruits and veggies, you bet they eat them if left to their own devices. One of our members here has a dog that raids the green beans off the vine. I've had dogs that would raid my tomatoes. She'd pick the best ones, lie down with it between her paws and enjoy. And I had one that used to love to shake the branches of the mulberry trees we had, to get them on the ground to eat.

    So please. Dogs will do fine on raw meats, but do not buy into this "wild prey" thing. They're not wild, and veggies and fruits are absolutely fine. Grated or cooked, or even raw.
    I agree our dogs are not wild, but studies show their digestive system is still the same as when they were wild. Of course dogs will eat anything, pigeons eat cigarette butts, but it doesn't mean they were meant to eat them. Like I said my opinion based on my research and readings.

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    I feed mine puréed veggies mixed with ground meat (a beef heart/green trip mix), whole egg, yogurt, apple cider vinegar, coconut oil, and garlic. Just 1/4 cup per meal. I throw it all in the blender when I have excess veggies and then freeze.

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    Maxx helps himself to green beans, tomatoes and cucumbers from the garden as well as apples and pears. I give my 2 mostly fruits and veggies for treats. As to how much they actually digest I am not terribly concerned. I am not feeding them excess calories from cookies that neither of mine need. I think Maxx could gain weight just looking at a bag of dog cookies! I do occassionally see pieces of carrot but never gave it much thought.
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    Tux loves to forage for acorns, especially this time of year.

    Prey Model Raw, BARF, home-cooked.....if done correctly, I honestly don't know that one is better than the other. I know they are all tons better than kibble, and I feel like anyone taking the time to feed this way is doing a great thing for their dog. People tend to pick the method they are most comfortable with, and that's fine.

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    I dont feed raw, mine eat about 50% homecooked, 50% kibble, they do eat alot of veggies. i usually steam all there veggies. Zoey wont eat raw carrots. My corgi loves raw carrots, i see it in her poop all the time. It doesnt digest all that well

    I have read that steaming is the best nutritionally but that doesnt really matter to me, i feed the veggies more as a filler. Zoeys weight has to be watched closely and veggies help alot.

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    Agree with Sue!!

    Dogs have been eating fruit and vegetables for 10 000 plus years. The amount is not worth getting pedantic about as it's not making up the majority of the meal...10-30% is the usual quoted figure with raw feeders today. It's only the outer cellulose layer that they cannot digest, so just cook it or purée it to break the cellulose.

    What we should be arguing is why people pussyfoot around the topic of kibble where people think cooking some unspecified meat at high temperatures until there is absolutely no value in it and then adding packets of questionable vitamins and minerals (more often from China or India) before putting it into a plastic bag where it can sit for up to 2 years is okay. And think it is okay to feed this food every day for the dogs whole life. They also put fruit and veges in this kibble, also cooked at high temps and lasting up to 2 years.


    Thats what we should be arguing....but I'm not going to say any more

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    Every dog I've ever owned has enjoyed carrots - raw, cooked, mashed, etc, I've always given them carrots periodically just to give them, no rhyme or reason - if they've had a lot at one time & the carrots were cooked prior to consumption, their stools will be orange.

    If they ate raw carrots, they will definitely have pieces of carrot - but that's to be expected, dogs can't rightly break down a whole carrot.

    Have one dog that eats half homecooked/half raw - has since she was 6mnths old, she's now just over a year. Other guy eats all raw - will never go back to kibble, the difference in overall health is HUGE!

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    I give Dodger the odd carrot or apple too, I just don't think based on my findings that they digest it. I don't think this is a debate, just people stating their opinions. My mom used to give her dog a mint tic tac before bed every night thinking it would help his breath, lol. Dogs will eat anything.

 



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