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      Grated Carrot and When You Went Raw....

      When you went to raw did you check poop to be sure everything was being digested properly?

      When you feed grated carrot do you still see some bits in the poop?


      We are very slowly edging into raw. With Oban's recent bowel issues I am adding a new food at a time and checking poop daily. With a stick, I don't just observe and look, I poke it apart and look inside. Last night I grated up a small carrot and this morning I see bits of carrot. Most of it must have digested by the amount I saw. Unless maybe I'm going to see the rest tomorrow. How much is too much to see? I used a hand grater. It would only grate a bit smaller with the food processor. And to think after all these years I might finally have a use for that wedding gift juicer. Which we donated to the church for a yard sale.

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      Don't feed raw but will see bits of carrot in poop. Happened with every dog we've had. Maybe it's just one of those things that does not completely digest since their intestines are shorter than ours and food moves through more quickly.

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      I feed raw but do prey model, so no veggies...however I think with the carrot (and any veggie), you have to cook them really well before the dog can digest them. Are you just grating a raw carrot, and that is what you are seeing in the poop?

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      Yes, it was a raw carrot, grated. The holistic Vet says we can stop cooking vegetables but grate them. She says dogs should be able to digest it if it's grated. She did say to try the juicer, which we no longer have, but give grating a try too. Considering Oban has always eaten whole raw carrots, but he does chew them up, and I never saw enough carrot in poop to equal the amount he ate I was hopeful the grating would digest better.

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      Raw carrots, really finely grated are just fine, don't have to be cooked. I don't feed raw, but home cooked - the meat is cooked, so is the pasta, but the carrots are finely shredded in a juicer, and I can drink the juice which is probably pretty good for me. Sure I can see VERY little bits of them in the poop, but I believe this is quite acceptable, and then there's one advantage: should I be accused of not picking up Mel's poop, I can easily recognize which is ours and which is NOT
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      When you went to raw did you check poop to be sure everything was being digested properly?
      Yes, but it's almost certain that in the first couple of days, it won't be digested properly. That is not a reason for concern, it's normal, the GI system may need some time to adjust to the new diet, especially if the dog has eaten nothing but kibble his whole life.

      When you feed grated carrot do you still see some bits in the poop?
      I fed raw carrot once and the carrot came out like - carrot! I always cook the veggies. Dogs lack enzymes to digest raw veggies, that's why they need to be cooked / steamed or pureed.

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      Not trying to preach, but.....

      Just a question, why feed a food that you know dogs can't digest. I know that sounds silly, but dogs cannot digest veggies because they are not meant to eat them. It's pretty simple. You know what veggies and vegetation they can digest?! Predigested vegetation from other animals which is called GREEN TRIPE! That is where Dodger gets his veggies. I suggest you forgo the veggies and feed green tripe instead. Especially with Oban's bowel issues, I wouldn't feed something their system is not meant to digest.

      I know people feed veggies as a filler, just don't expect your dog to get much nutritional value out of it and you can expect it to come out looking very similar to how it went in.

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      Quote Originally Posted by krosen View Post
      Not trying to preach, but.....

      Just a question, why feed a food that you know dogs can't digest. I know that sounds silly, but dogs cannot digest veggies because they are not meant to eat them. It's pretty simple. You know what veggies and vegetation they can digest?! Predigested vegetation from other animals which is called GREEN TRIPE! That is where Dodger gets his veggies. I suggest you forgo the veggies and feed green tripe instead. Especially with Oban's bowel issues, I wouldn't feed something their system is not meant to digest.

      I know people feed veggies as a filler, just don't expect your dog to get much nutritional value out of it and you can expect it to come out looking very similar to how it went in.
      Dogs can digest veggies when they are cooked/steamed/pureed. Dogs cannot digest raw veggies.

      I can't find green tripe where I live, so I don't feed it.

      Generally, when it comes to nutrition, opinions vary. In the end, you feed what you are comfortable with. I am most comfortable with adding some veggies (no more than 20% of the meal) and my dog does fine on that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Berna View Post
      Dogs can digest veggies when they are cooked/steamed/pureed. Dogs cannot digest raw veggies.

      I can't find green tripe where I live, so I don't feed it.

      Generally, when it comes to nutrition, opinions vary. In the end, you feed what you are comfortable with. I am most comfortable with adding some veggies (no more than 20% of the meal) and my dog does fine on that.
      You can't even find canned green tripe??? and I don't believe even cooked veggies are digested, but that's just my opinion based on my readings. Even if dogs could digest cooked veggies, would they ever get cooked veggies in the wild? Although I say that but do understand not everyone feeds raw because they want their dog to eat like they do in the wild.

      You may be able to ask a pet food store to order canned green tripe for you. I often buy the canned because it's not easy to buy fresh here.

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      I don't KNOW dogs cannot digest vegetables. I've read they can't. I've read they can: some raw, some grated finely, some cooked. This new holistic Vet we are seeing says finely grated or pureed vegetables can be digested by dogs. As per yesterday's poop examination it seems Oban did digest most of the grated carrot 'cause I didn't see any more. He also got the skins from the cooked sweet potato, cut up, and that seems to be processed as desired too.

      Of course now the question is; Just because the veg do not reappear looking the same as they went in, does that necessarily mean a nutritional benefit was obtained?

      Just a couple of days though and I find it's much easier to cook the veg and peel them. Anything I have to grate or cut up is an extra, hands on, step for me and extra cleaning. Thinking mostly of the sweet potato for peeling, the skins just slide off after they're baked.

      Next veggie to try is beets. My own from my garden didn't get very big so they'll be a good test. I have always liked to give raw beets because the dogs love the sweetness and gobble them up, but beets are very hard and give almost as good chewing as a bone. Oh boy, purple poop coming up.

      Oban got tripe a couple of days ago. It's the brown tripe frozen in bars that I tried when Ginger was dying and some is left over. That also went in and out just fine.

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