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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgie View Post
    Just to clarify, my previous post was specifically that you can't extrapolate that an intolerance to chicken kibble means it's definitely the chicken and absolutely nothing else in the kibble. Chicken kibble is not chicken. Naturally if your dog has had tests that your dog has a chicken intolerance then you know it will have an intolerance to all things chicken.

    Testing for allergies and intolerances when feeding kibble requires one to assess it more fully because chicken kibble is not chicken.

    So in Labradorks case she is still at phase 1. "Is my dog allergic or intolerant to chicken?". Elimination and exclusion diets and testing will give her some answers.
    Oh, I thought that was what you meant. Right with you then because along with her reply to me was a paper from Europe where several kibbles were analysed for ingredients that might cause a sensitivity or intolerance reaction but were not a named ingredient. Yup, lots of them.

    Dr. Dodds uses that ^ argument to suggest it's why elimination diets often don't work. If you don't know what all is in the food then you may not be aware of the ingredient you excluded or eliminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliebbarkin View Post
    Agree with krosen. Char won't even touch grocery store chicken.
    Do you feed raw chicken? Where does it come from? I just picked up some raw food today. It's all the parts of the critter that we humans don't normally eat and as far as I know it's all treated the same way as the grocery store stuff.

    Hmmm, will have to look into that because we have recently had a couple of buys of grocery store chicken for ourselves that we would not eat, it was tasteless and mushy. Apparently chicken is given a bath to and the same water is used over and over so chlorine is put into it to kill bacteria that would build up in the water. Some pieces of chicken sit longer than others and the chlorine makes it mushy. Some people have reported being able to smell the chlorine. But my raw supplier says all his meat is human grade treated, just not the parts humans eat. I didn't follow through on investigating this so look into it yourself in case I got something wrong, or am remembering incorrectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowshoe View Post
    Do you feed raw chicken? Where does it come from? I just picked up some raw food today. It's all the parts of the critter that we humans don't normally eat and as far as I know it's all treated the same way as the grocery store stuff.

    Hmmm, will have to look into that because we have recently had a couple of buys of grocery store chicken for ourselves that we would not eat, it was tasteless and mushy. Apparently chicken is given a bath to and the same water is used over and over so chlorine is put into it to kill bacteria that would build up in the water. Some pieces of chicken sit longer than others and the chlorine makes it mushy. Some people have reported being able to smell the chlorine. But my raw supplier says all his meat is human grade treated, just not the parts humans eat. I didn't follow through on investigating this so look into it yourself in case I got something wrong, or am remembering incorrectly.
    I do. I get mine from a co op or a raw dog food store ( one that has primal or aunt Jennie's). In a bind I have gotten whole meats from whole foods.

    Interesting about the chicken. I've been wondering how the switch to raw has been going for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charliebbarkin View Post
    I do. I get mine from a co op or a raw dog food store ( one that has primal or aunt Jennie's). In a bind I have gotten whole meats from whole foods.

    Interesting about the chicken. I've been wondering how the switch to raw has been going for you.
    It's going really, incredibly, amazingly well. We are just into the third month of total raw, I'm doing BARF. Oban had none of the diarrhoea or vomit or other problems some have starting but then we were on his Vet's direction and we went very s l o w w w w l y. The digestive issues of last spring are gone, he has gained back his weight and all the coat that fell out is back in.. Neighbours who saw him when he was so weak he could barely walk and so thin and with no guard hair keep exclaiming about how good he looks now. Honestly, I don't think his coat and skin have ever looked so good.

    I have one slight problem in that my supplier is having trouble with his supplier in getting some beef and pork products. But a really good thing is that this raw dog food company moved just before Christmas and is now only about 10 minutes away from me. Yay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowshoe View Post
    Do you feed raw chicken? Where does it come from? I just picked up some raw food today. It's all the parts of the critter that we humans don't normally eat and as far as I know it's all treated the same way as the grocery store stuff.

    Hmmm, will have to look into that because we have recently had a couple of buys of grocery store chicken for ourselves that we would not eat, it was tasteless and mushy. Apparently chicken is given a bath to and the same water is used over and over so chlorine is put into it to kill bacteria that would build up in the water. Some pieces of chicken sit longer than others and the chlorine makes it mushy. Some people have reported being able to smell the chlorine. But my raw supplier says all his meat is human grade treated, just not the parts humans eat. I didn't follow through on investigating this so look into it yourself in case I got something wrong, or am remembering incorrectly.
    I am not sure what it is about store bought chicken, but it's only the chicken Dodger has problems with. I can buy beef, pork etc...from the grocery store with no problem. We have a supplier here that also has a slaughter house. What he does is he takes the left over parts- meaty bones, fat, organs, other parts and blends it and sells it in frozen bricks as raw food. I feed that 25% because it is cheap. It's 12$ for 40lbs. It contains horse, chicken and turkey. Since it's right from the slaughter house the chicken doesn't affect Dodger.

 



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