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      Allergic to raw chicken?

      The boys are doing GREAT on raw!

      I am able to regulate Sam's weight better without starving him to death or feeding him green beans. He's got dry skin this year and he's kinda stinky though. So, I bought more mackerel for him as his coat was amazing when he was getting fish regularly.

      Linus is also doing well weight-wise, but he's awfully itchy again. It seemed to go away when I took COOKED chicken out of his diet (kibble). I haven't been able to go to the big meat place so I've been buying cheap chicken for them and not only is he itchier, but his tear stains are pretty bad. They've always been there a little bit.

      Since I had the day off and the meat place was open, I went on a shopping spree and NO CHICKEN. Gonna try that and see how it goes. I will continue chicken with Sam as it agrees with him and red meat makes him fart a lot.

      Anyone have issues with raw chicken?

      I have venison and elk from my parents' hunting trips this Fall, and at the meat place today I bought them mackerel, pork heart and liver, bull fries (testicles), green beef trip, green lamb tripe, whole lamb necks, beef tracheas (OMG - they are HUGE!), and whole turkey necks (they are not gulpers -- they even chew chicken necks).

      Got to talking to the meat folks while I was waiting and turns out they have all these great things that are not on the list -- all kinds of green tripe, offals, lungs, spleens, etc. so next time I can ask for off-list items and see what they've got in stock.

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      No problems with chicken.

      I also would never compare chicken in kibble with raw or home cooked chicken as the differences are just too great. Not only can you really control and monitor raw and home cooked chicken and you know you haven't added ANY preservatives, kibble just as too many other things in it that would confound any assessment. If a dog is allergic to chicken kibble it could be both the way it is processed and also a particular chemical that may be used that is different to beef kibble etc...

      So I wouldn't assume allergy to chicken kibble means allergy to the real chicken.

      Sometimes teary eyes and itching can be environmental, esp. if swimming in waterways, or even windy days (often seasonal).

      I think more and more places are now supplying for a growing number of customers that own pets. I still would love to have the variety you mention and can only hope in time more becomes available. I would hate it if my dog was allergic to chicken because I love feeding it and know it is the type of animal she should be eating and would be eating in the wild, also the excellent supply of glucosamine etc.. for healthy bones and joints. Lately for the small portion of her diet that requires a muscle meat I have been giving beef cheek which is much cheaper than the normal cuts of beef/chicken.

      What do you mean that Sam is stinky?? Is it an off smell? Canned sardines are also a good small addition to meals intermittently. his skin shouldn't be dry if he's getting loads of fresh chicken bones. I would definitely be looking into the "smelly" skin. Others may have some suggestions as that is something I would want to know the cause (LOL unless of course they have been rolling in horse manure).
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      Jake developed a raw chicken allergy around 5 years of age. Unfortunately, due to the lack of good quality, additive-free, varied meat sources where we lived at the time that was the end of raw feeding for us.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Georgie View Post
      No problems with chicken.

      I also would never compare chicken in kibble with raw or home cooked chicken as the differences are just too great. Not only can you really control and monitor raw and home cooked chicken and you know you haven't added ANY preservatives, kibble just as too many other things in it that would confound any assessment. If a dog is allergic to chicken kibble it could be both the way it is processed and also a particular chemical that may be used that is different to beef kibble etc...

      So I wouldn't assume allergy to chicken kibble means allergy to the real chicken.

      Sometimes teary eyes and itching can be environmental, esp. if swimming in waterways, or even windy days (often seasonal).

      I think more and more places are now supplying for a growing number of customers that own pets. I still would love to have the variety you mention and can only hope in time more becomes available. I would hate it if my dog was allergic to chicken because I love feeding it and know it is the type of animal she should be eating and would be eating in the wild, also the excellent supply of glucosamine etc.. for healthy bones and joints. Lately for the small portion of her diet that requires a muscle meat I have been giving beef cheek which is much cheaper than the normal cuts of beef/chicken.

      What do you mean that Sam is stinky?? Is it an off smell? Canned sardines are also a good small addition to meals intermittently. his skin shouldn't be dry if he's getting loads of fresh chicken bones. I would definitely be looking into the "smelly" skin. Others may have some suggestions as that is something I would want to know the cause (LOL unless of course they have been rolling in horse manure).
      Linus was the same when I was feeding chicken kibble, went to no chicken, and had improvement, now that I'm feeding quite a bit of chicken, it's back. But no, it never completely went away. So definitely could be environmental. I'll try no chicken for a bit, see what happens.

      Interesting about beef cheeks as they are expensive here!

      Sam's skin/coat is not looking great (dandruffy) and when you really get in there and give him a scratch and touch his skin, he's just dog smelly, which he generally isn't. I buy them the frozen mackerel - whole fish - which we get for $1.40/lb in bulk here. The cat likes it, too.

      We're pretty lucky to have the meat place in town.

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      I did the Nutriscan test on Oban, turkey is a no-no for him. When I questionned this the answer back from Dr. Jean Dodds (in less than 24 hours too, she's amazing) was that it doesn't matter if the food is kibble, home cooked or raw, if there is a sensitivity or intolerance to the food it applies to any version of that food. She also said there are 4-5 times less antigen sites in the raw as compared to the kibble. And since intolerance is cummulative and takes a while to build up over time it will take longer with raw, but it will build up. So, I have some raw turkey I am not going to feed.

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      That's interesting, Snowshoe. Thanks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Snowshoe View Post
      I did the Nutriscan test on Oban, turkey is a no-no for him. When I questionned this the answer back from Dr. Jean Dodds (in less than 24 hours too, she's amazing) was that it doesn't matter if the food is kibble, home cooked or raw, if there is a sensitivity or intolerance to the food it applies to any version of that food. She also said there are 4-5 times less antigen sites in the raw as compared to the kibble. And since intolerance is cummulative and takes a while to build up over time it will take longer with raw, but it will build up. So, I have some raw turkey I am not going to feed.

      Cookie would get a terrible diarrhea and sometimes vomiting on chicken-based kibble and cookied chicken. No issues with raw chicken though. He's been fed raw for two years now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Snowshoe View Post
      I did the Nutriscan test on Oban, turkey is a no-no for him. When I questionned this the answer back from Dr. Jean Dodds (in less than 24 hours too, she's amazing) was that it doesn't matter if the food is kibble, home cooked or raw, if there is a sensitivity or intolerance to the food it applies to any version of that food. She also said there are 4-5 times less antigen sites in the raw as compared to the kibble. And since intolerance is cummulative and takes a while to build up over time it will take longer with raw, but it will build up. So, I have some raw turkey I am not going to feed.
      Just to clarify, my previous post was specifically that you can't extrapolate that an intolerance to chicken kibble means it's definitely the chicken and absolutely nothing else in the kibble. Chicken kibble is not chicken. Naturally if your dog has had tests that your dog has a chicken intolerance then you know it will have an intolerance to all things chicken.

      Testing for allergies and intolerances when feeding kibble requires one to assess it more fully because chicken kibble is not chicken.

      So in Labradorks case she is still at phase 1. "Is my dog allergic or intolerant to chicken?". Elimination and exclusion diets and testing will give her some answers.

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      I thought Dodger was allergic to raw chicken, however it turns out her is allergic to the chicken in grocery stores. If it's a farm raised chicken then he is fine but they are expensive, so I rarely feed him chicken. Dodger gets mostly beef, pork, turkey and sardines.

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      Agree with krosen. Char won't even touch grocery store chicken.
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