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    I disagree. It's not that difficult, you just need to follow some basic rules.

    1. 80% muscle meat, 10% bones and 10% organs
    2. Variety of protein
    3. 2-3% of body weight

    Balancing a meal is almost impossible. I don't really believe that pre-packaged raw meals are balanced, unless they have synthetic vitamins added. Balance happens over time, variety is the key.
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    It's not that it's hard. It's quite easy once you know what you're doing and have access to the things you need. That wasn't my point but I digress.

    Voodoo, I would be quite happy to be the best mentor I can be for you and help you get started if you would like. Just drop me a PM.
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    I researched raw for over 10yrs before finally jumping in with everything I had....literally.

    We fed kibble one day; the next, switched to raw cold turkey.....will NEVER look back.

    One dog was 5.5yrs old, other pup was barely 6mnths old. She's grown very slow and steady; only problem is I can't seem to get weight on her and she's eating nearly 3lbs of food a day.......BUT, she's very very active, meaning too me, she's getting all the nutrients she needs and perhaps one day she'll gain a few more pounds.

    I wouldn't even question it, except she is VERY thin; vet says that could just be her breed type - she's an Australian Shepherd mixed with something tall and thin. If I feed her more then 3lbs, (which she gets in 3 separate meals), she spits her food back up - almost like it's too much for her stomach.

    The difference in the overall health of both dogs versus dogs I've raised on kibble is huge! I will never question or hesitate to feed any future pups raw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowshoe View Post
    I can't answer for Voodoo but I know several people who feed kibble in the morning so they themselves can get going out of the house to work more quickly and easily in the morning.
    I call bluff! .....I do feed raw, but not with bones. I can feed boneless meat in the morning, mixed with already pre-cooked veggies for perhaps a 2-3 min longer then feeding kibble - not enough time difference to contemplate NOT feeding raw for the overall health benefit of the dog.

    Some dogs do not do good with raw and kibble in the diet together - even if fed separately. Some do great, some don't. Personally, I don't see the point in spending $45-60 for kibble, then on top of that buying raw too. When I can get raw for 2 big dogs cheaper then I can get a $65 dollar bag of food for one dog.

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    Voodoo - for many many years, people raised their pets on homecooked/raw with variety far longer then any dog food has been around for. Variety is the key, do not try to balance it every meal, every night - not gonna happen.

    Just like our meals, we dont' have balance with every meal.

    Feeding a dog is not as terrifying as vets want you to believe it is. ....Funny thing about my vet, he preaches science diet & Purina, and yet, he LOVES the fact I'm feeding raw and was super excited when I switched to it.

    His only caution to me was to make sure I knew what quality of meat I was getting and to make sure to rotate proteins, tons of variety and organ meats.

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    I went raw with my older dog when he had a mast cell tumor and a spindle cell tumor that we had removed last April. The spindle cell was on his left front leg - right by the joint and the first vet recommended removing his leg. No way was I going to let that happen on a lab who was 12 (now 13 1/2) I read that grains and gluten speed up cancer - and the surgeon (who was amazing and of course - very expensive) was unable to get 100% clean margins on the spindle cell tumor on the leg - and told us it was likely it would grow back. I feed him raw in the morning and grain free Candidae in the evening. (Raw is ground beef (I buy 10 pounds at a time), ground greens like broccoli, spinach, kale,et, carrot, apple, cottage cheese, eggs (7) and flax seed oil. (one Tablespoon) It costs about $50 for 40 patties that I freeze. It was not recommended that I feed it to him twice a day. He is thriving - coat looks glossy and the cancer has not returned. I want to get my boy to 15 and beyond!
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    once i get this book i ordered and come up with a plan that i can handle, i will give raw a try...ofc i will share with the forum to get some feedback before i start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
    once i get this book i ordered and come up with a plan that i can handle, i will give raw a try...ofc i will share with the forum to get some feedback before i start.
    Good for you!!!!!!!!! We're here if you need help.....don't let it overwhelm you! I will admit I was scared at first, with having a 6mnth old LB puppy, but I'm glad I did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moby and Barley's Mom View Post
    He is thriving - coat looks glossy and the cancer has not returned. I want to get my boy to 15 and beyond!
    I believe you will.....my hats off to you, that has to be scary! But, you're doing the right thing and it sounds like he's doing excellent! My big guy is on mostly ground beef as well, does much better then poultry for him.

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    What about this book? I don't suppose anyone has bought this yet? I was all set to order but it's going to cost me nearly as much in shipping as the book itself and I might get hit with other duty tax as well. So I thought I'd wait till there were at least some reviews.

 



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