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    When can I expect more than 2 hrs sleep?

    Murphy is 4 months old today. Here's the problem...we go to bed about 9:30. He wakes up every 2 hours all night EVERY night. He sleeps in his kennel next to my bed so I can stick my hand in it and hope he settles back to sleep. He eats 3 times a day. 5 a.m. 12 noon and 6 p.m. He weighs about 30 lbs. He wakes up to pee and comes in and waits for a treat which he does not get. He gets escorted out with no fanfare and right back up to his kennel. The only words I say are "go potty" and "kennel". He is usually cut off water by 7:30. Its getting hotter here in Wisconsin so I feel like I need to keep him hydrated. HELP!! I work every morning at 6 so I don't mind getting up early, but through the night is getting old.
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    You were having some issues a month or so ago with him peeing frequently in the evening, weren't you? Dry at lunchtime, wet when you got home in the afternoon and then the pee parade was on for the rest of the evening? Did that get resolved? Have you asked his vet about how frequently he seems to go, just to make sure there was no UTI or other issue?

    By 4 months, most of our pups have been able to sleep through the night without a potty break. My feeding times are similar but I do not restrict water in the evening. Does he go out right before bedtime and you give him enough time to empty out? He gets plenty of exercise time between when you get home and bedtime? Does he get a bedtime snack, in case he's actually waking up a little hungry but as long as he's up, let's go outside, Mom! What would happen if you did not take him outside every time he wakes up? Just trying to see if there's anything to change, since everything you've said sounds like you're doing the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartrock View Post
    You were having some issues a month or so ago with him peeing frequently in the evening, weren't you? Dry at lunchtime, wet when you got home in the afternoon and then the pee parade was on for the rest of the evening? Did that get resolved? Have you asked his vet about how frequently he seems to go, just to make sure there was no UTI or other issue?

    By 4 months, most of our pups have been able to sleep through the night without a potty break. My feeding times are similar but I do not restrict water in the evening. Does he go out right before bedtime and you give him enough time to empty out? He gets plenty of exercise time between when you get home and bedtime? Does he get a bedtime snack, in case he's actually waking up a little hungry but as long as he's up, let's go outside, Mom! What would happen if you did not take him outside every time he wakes up? Just trying to see if there's anything to change, since everything you've said sounds like you're doing the right thing.
    I agree with all of this. All of mine were sleeping through the night by that age - pretty much by 10 weeks or so. So if he isn't, I would think it's one of two things. First, something physical like a UTI or second, he has learned that this is expected behavior and is just following the routine that's been set. Meaning that even if he does pee when you take him out, that doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't be able to hold it if you didn't. I would think that if you have no other reason to think he has a UTI or other physical issues the first step would be to experiment with making him hold it longer to see if he is able. Maybe not all night right at first, but if he's going out every 2 hours, maybe ask him to hold it for 3 or 4. If he has an accident, then it is probably physical. If he cries and complains but can hold it, it is probably more of a learned behavior.
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    Brandy must be an odd ball, first week home we crated her nest to the bed and she would pitch a fit, sleep a few hours, we would take her out, put her back in her crate and go back to bed. That got old for us old folks real fast. I fell asleep on the bed one night on the bed with Brandy by my side, never woke up until 8 the next morning, my bed is 3 feet high, Brandy was still next to me and the bed was dry, since that night she has slept with me, in my bed and we all get a good night's sleep. We still use her crate, and she will go in it willingly, we know it's important so if she ever needs to b crated at the vet she will behave herself.

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    Is he getting enough exercise during the day? I would think the pup would sleep longer during the night if he were more tired?? Just guessing??

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    i think gigi was sleeping through by 3 months . Even though 8 weeks to 12 weeks were hell. But by 10 weeks she went to waking once at 2.30 or so.
    its a dog and behaviours are built. its not that he wants to pee. more like his mental clock is now trained to do this. try breaking it.

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    Yes, the vet saw him for the pee issues in the house and he had no UTI. Most likely just me not reading his cues well enough to get him out on time and him having a little too much freedom in the house when he shouldn't have. We are working on it yet, but it has improved greatly! He was also treated for Giardia and that has resolved too. He was to the vet yesterday for a check up and shots.

    We were up north on vacation last week and he slept great. BUT he was getting exercise ALL day long for 7 days. His sleeping continued for 3 nights after we got back home, but now we are going to bed about 10, waking at 1 and getting up for the day at 5. The vet suggested either ignoring him at 1 and seeing if he goes back to sleep. It's probably just a habit at this point.
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    I take him for 3- 15 minute walks a day...early morning, on my lunch and again in the evening. My daughter is home from college for the summer and also runs him in the yard a few times daily. In the evenings he also runs in the yard non-stop with the neighbor dog for about 30 minutes. Is this enough or does he need more? He is 19 weeks now. I don't want to exhaust him to a point it isn't healthy and now that summer has hit in Wisconsin I worry about the heat. I haven't had a puppy for 11 years so I need to relearn all of this. Thanks for helping!
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    I think it probably is a learned behavior. I'm too easy on him. I want him to be a good dog, but I fall for that puppy face. Plus my husband drives a commercial truck 12+ hours a day and needs the sleep so I quick take him out to avoid waking him. Tonights plan from here on out...let him fuss it out.
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