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    Quote Originally Posted by JenC View Post
    Since nothing seems to have worked so far, other options are needed. I think the suggestions that some find so outlandish were suggested because they have worked in some instances. Jagger for example, was pad trained (much to my dismay but I wasn't housebreaking him, his co-owner was). Yet he never tore a pad and would run into his pen to pee on the pad if I missed his "signals". And I would rather the pup pee in the house in an appropriate spot than randomly on the carpet. And he was fully house trained at 5 months, so it didn't ruin him. So all the self proclaimed experts need to realize there are other methods that work when they are needed.
    Not self-proclaimed expert by any stretch. Know there are other ways to do things, as I homeschooled. And I do there are three ways to teach a child, even though some thing there are only one. (government schrul system). Definitely if one thing doesn't work, go to the next. Knowing several ways to do one thing is always a benefit. It's called a plan.

    Definitely if tough love doesn't work, an ex-pen, puppy pads and whatever else someone does, can also be a way to get your pup to eliminate where you want them to.

    One thing to remember throughout all the different options is....don't get frustrated, don't get angry at the pup, and if you do, walk away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenC View Post
    Since nothing seems to have worked so far, other options are needed. I think the suggestions that some find so outlandish were suggested because they have worked in some instances. Jagger for example, was pad trained (much to my dismay but I wasn't housebreaking him, his co-owner was). Yet he never tore a pad and would run into his pen to pee on the pad if I missed his "signals". And I would rather the pup pee in the house in an appropriate spot than randomly on the carpet. And he was fully house trained at 5 months, so it didn't ruin him. So all the self proclaimed experts need to realize there are other methods that work when they are needed.
    That was unnecessary. I have never proclaimed to be any kind of expert, but I do have quite a bit of experience with puppies and I'm allowed to disagree with you and anyone else. It's not personal, so your snide comments aren't needed. Glad pee pads worked for your puppy, although I would say that not being housebroken until 5 months old is a little behind and exactly what I was trying to say, that using them makes it take longer. NOT that it ruins a puppy, I never said that and I don't think anyone else did either. If the owner is fine with that, great. I've fostered and raised lots of puppies, all different breeds, and they have all loved to tear up potty pads. That's MY experience.

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    Dakota was this same way. She wasn't completely house trained until she was like 6 months old. I couldn't figure out why. In hindsight I now know: she is a soft dog & any kind of correction about peeing or pooping led to her being afraid/upset. I never was a yeller or anything like that though-I'd firmly say "no" and quickly get her outside BUT that firm no was a bit too strong for her. I stopped saying anything at all, just took her out, Praised her like crazy when she went outside,cleaned it up & figured she'd sooner or later be fine. And she was. Maybe if you try not saying anything at all-just take her out without getting upset. Basically just be patient. Give so much praise when she pees outside, say nothing when she does it inside just take her right out. Also, I take up the water at night at bedtime, just so they don't drink a whole bowl full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontananDakota View Post
    Dakota was this same way. She wasn't completely house trained until she was like 6 months old. I couldn't figure out why. In hindsight I now know: she is a soft dog & any kind of correction about peeing or pooping led to her being afraid/upset. I never was a yeller or anything like that though-I'd firmly say "no" and quickly get her outside BUT that firm no was a bit too strong for her. I stopped saying anything at all, just took her out, Praised her like crazy when she went outside,cleaned it up & figured she'd sooner or later be fine. And she was. Maybe if you try not saying anything at all-just take her out without getting upset. Basically just be patient. Give so much praise when she pees outside, say nothing when she does it inside just take her right out. Also, I take up the water at night at bedtime, just so they don't drink a whole bowl full.
    Definitely read that you should take up the water 2 hours before bedtime.

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    I didn't see this suggested - what kind of crate do you use? If you're using a wire one now I would switch to a plastic vari kennel or vice versa. Seems like some bad habits were established (not your fault) and a fresh start with something completely new might help create new habits.

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    Nothing to add except I never restrict water. I feel that it leads to water hoarding, their water is restricted, so they drink as much as possible when they can, since they don't know when they will see water again. I don't restrict water and when I am crate training my puppies, they frequently wake up and don't have to go potty, they are thirsty!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelley View Post
    Nothing to add except I never restrict water. I feel that it leads to water hoarding, their water is restricted, so they drink as much as possible when they can, since they don't know when they will see water again. I don't restrict water and when I am crate training my puppies, they frequently wake up and don't have to go potty, they are thirsty!!
    Never restrict, will make sure pup has final drink at the end of the night and then right outside to potty and poo if possible and then right into the crate for night. And in the morning, right outside to potty and then in for drinks and food and definitely some little goodies. Pup will never feel that he needs to hoard his water. Or food for that matter.

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    I had this same issue with my female puppy. We took her to the vet who said she had a UTI. He put her on antibiotics, but she still continued to pee in the house. After a few more vet visits, he referred her to NCSU's vet school/animal hospital who had a urinary specialist on staff. They ran some tests & found out that she had a UTI that was caused by a rare bacteria that isn't typically tested for in standard vet offices. After a final intense round of antibiotic therapy, she hasn't had an accident since!

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    My corgi used to pee in her crate and this is what I did and it worked for us. Just personal experience. I tried limiting her space first and that did not work, she had no issue sitting or standing her own pee. No amount of cleaning helped either. It was a learned behavior that needed to be unlearned

    I completely took the crate away for a while, I bought a xpen and set her up with pee pads and completely retrained her. Took her out every 30 minutes, prasied her when she went outside. She never layed or stood in her pee again when she had ample room to get away from it

    I threw away the old crate and retrained her in a new one about 2 months later, she never peed in the new crate, never had another accident and that was 4 years ago

 



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