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    This dog REALLY should be seen by a vet. Rat poison is serious. It can kill a dog. Please do right by this dog and have it examined by a vet.

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    If it is your sister's dog why can you not find someone to help you with the vet expenses? Besides that, if you are truly concerned about this dog and your sister is away you have the perfect opportunity to get him in to a great rescue. Living outside and/or tied up in a garage is not where any Lab belongs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michellemabelle View Post
    So, if he did eat it, the bromethalin it contains is 0.01% and he either ate one pellet or just half a pellet.
    Bromethalin is the "new" rodenticide, and vitamin K is not going to help. I am sorry to say, there is NO antidote for it, and NO test to see if it's been ingested. Do not waste money buying vitamin K. With any luck, he didn't ingest enough to affect him.

    Why Is Bromethalin So Deadly?

    Bromethalin is a neurotoxin that affects cells in the brain and liver. It causes sodium accumulation within cells and results in fluid buildup within the brain.


    Bromethalin poisoning is fast acting -- signs of brain swelling and central nervous system disturbance can appear within 2 to 24 hours after ingestion. The swelling compresses nerves, which then lose their ability to send messages. Depending on how much poison has been ingested, symptoms can include unsteadiness, weakness, muscle tremors, paddling motions of the limbs, hyperexcitability, depression, vomiting, high fever, stiffness in the front legs, and seizures.


    With anticoagulant toxicity, veterinarians typically have from about 3 days to a week to save the patient, but the rapid onset of bromethalin poisoning leaves almost no time for error. Once an animal is showing neurological symptoms, effective treatment becomes more difficult and costly, and the pet may only have a day or two to be saved. Even in cases for which treatment is successful, more emergency care and hospitalization is involved than in cases of anticoagulant poisoning.


    Because there’s no antidote for bromethalin, decontamination (inducing vomiting and administering activated charcoal) is the primary treatment. But according to Dr. Brutlag, not enough veterinarians are familiar with how to neutralize exposure to this toxin.


    The severity of intoxication depends on how much bromethalin is ingested. If a pet is discovered within 10 to 15 minutes of ingestion, the owner can induce vomiting. But beyond that very short window of time, vomiting should only be induced in a veterinary setting -- and the pet must then be monitored for acute signs of neurological impairment and given repeated doses of activated charcoal over a 24-hour period.


    “Should clinical signs arise,” says Dr. Brutlag, “patients are treated with standard measures to reduce cerebral edema [swelling in the brain] including IV fluids, mannitol, etc.” A pet who has recurrent seizures or paralysis after ingesting bromethalin has a poor prognosis.
    Bromethalin: The New Rodenticide That Can Kill Your Pet


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    Besides that, if you are truly concerned about this dog and your sister is away you have the perfect opportunity to get him in to a great rescue.
    While I may agree with the sentiment, that is theft. Surely you aren't suggesting she do something illegal, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sue View Post
    Bromethalin is the "new" rodenticide, and vitamin K is not going to help. I am sorry to say, there is NO antidote for it, and NO test to see if it's been ingested. Do not waste money buying vitamin K. With any luck, he didn't ingest enough to affect him.


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    While I may agree with the sentiment, that is theft. Surely you aren't suggesting she do something illegal, right?
    I guess I am! It just hurts my heart to hear a Lab has been banished to the elements of outside living or tied up in a garage when it gets really dicey. I have "removed" dogs from these type of circumstances myself and honestly I thought of it as rescue not theft. As wrong as that may be to some I find it very difficult to sit back and think "oh well" when a dog is treated poorly. I would never do it without personal observation an animal was suffering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michellemabelle View Post
    I've never liked that Coconut is an outdoor dog. He's not my pet, he's my sister's pet and she's always been so irresponsible with him and I have told her, multiple times, to take him to a nearby Lab rescue center and she refuses. She's currently out of the country and I don't want to tell her of my suspicion that he might have eaten a rat poison block!
    If this is a real post- please take Coconut to the vet immediately. Don't wait, just go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoopsaDaisy View Post
    If this is a real post- please take Coconut to the vet immediately. Don't wait, just go.
    I legitimately don't have the money to do so. :'/

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    Then leave the dog at the shelter with a note that you don't have the money to care for it and it ate rat poison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenC View Post
    Then leave the dog at the shelter with a note that you don't have the money to care for it and it ate rat poison.
    You can do that? What will the shelter do to him? :'(

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    Quote Originally Posted by michellemabelle View Post
    I legitimately don't have the money to do so. :'/
    Charge the $40 for a vet checkup and have your sister pay you back. If it's not your dog then you shouldn't have to pay the bill anyway. But right now that dogs life may depend on you taking it in to the vet. Or do what Jen said and take it to a shelter because you have no business taking care of a dog if you won't take it in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JenC View Post
    Then leave the dog at the shelter with a note that you don't have the money to care for it and it ate rat poison.
    Why are you recommending this????
    The dog will be immediately euthanized, most likely. You don't now what kind of "shelter" it is. Besides which, it still is theft to take someone else's property (and a dog is considered property unfortunately), and sell or give it away. It's known as theft by unauthorized taking or transfer. Or something similar.
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