Originally Posted by
Sue
I do not object to the use of an e-collar. By no means. In fact, it's almost a necessity. I DO object to stick fetch and ear/toe pinch training. A Lab should not have to be subjected to that type of "pressure" as force based trainers like to call it. Sorry. A true Lab has the enthusiasm for retrieving, and is willing to please. So much so that they are used in multiple venues, including guide dogs, detection dogs, search and rescue, etc., etc. If the breeding of the so called field Lab in the US has wiped that drive and desire out of them, than there is none to blame but the trainers, who are using outdated methods