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      Back home with our first Senior Ribbon

      So I was calmer than I thought I would be. That was good.

      But Rocket Dog was not. She was bug-nuts but held it together, enough.

      She didn't squeak. She just crept abominably. Not our standards. Not even close. So there is something that just explodes in her head when there is a HT situation. I have used the analogy of a Crack or Meth addict, but I think it's more powerful than that. She just HAS to have that bird NOW or she will DIE.

      I spoke with the judges afterwards. The judge said she LOVES Rocket Dog. "You have a great dog there!" But I think her dogs are also meth/duck heads. She said but for a small hunt on her flier, she would have scored a perfect 10 for each mark. (The flier was an 8). Her blinds were fabulous. I kept her tight. We challenged the blind. She answered each whistle, took every cast. The crowd applauded us. I think her blinds brought up her trainability scores and obscured what her line manners deserved. I would have graded her down a lot more.

      So we will keep at it. At home and in training. We'll train our butts off... try to get some more live fliers. But seriously, I think the only thing that will get through to her is to be taken to a hunt test, told to sit... watch her birds go up... and (assuming she creeps) have the collar slipped over her neck saying SIT! I told you SIT! and thank the judges and then drive the both of us home. I will just have to bite the bullet. For sure, if I go to any more HT's and let her do what she did over and over... the pattern will be set and there will never be a Master ribbon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TuMicks View Post
      So I was calmer than I thought I would be. That was good.

      But Rocket Dog was not. She was bug-nuts but held it together, enough.

      She didn't squeak. She just crept abominably. Not our standards. Not even close. So there is something that just explodes in her head when there is a HT situation. I have used the analogy of a Crack or Meth addict, but I think it's more powerful than that. She just HAS to have that bird NOW or she will DIE.

      I spoke with the judges afterwards. The judge said she LOVES Rocket Dog. "You have a great dog there!" But I think her dogs are also meth/duck heads. She said but for a small hunt on her flier, she would have scored a perfect 10 for each mark. (The flier was an 8). Her blinds were fabulous. I kept her tight. We challenged the blind. She answered each whistle, took every cast. The crowd applauded us. I think her blinds brought up her trainability scores and obscured what her line manners deserved. I would have graded her down a lot more.

      So we will keep at it. At home and in training. We'll train our butts off... try to get some more live fliers. But seriously, I think the only thing that will get through to her is to be taken to a hunt test, told to sit... watch her birds go up... and (assuming she creeps) have the collar slipped over her neck saying SIT! I told you SIT! and thank the judges and then drive the both of us home. I will just have to bite the bullet. For sure, if I go to any more HT's and let her do what she did over and over... the pattern will be set and there will never be a Master ribbon.
      Congratulations! One down...how many to go?

      If the dog is truly a meth head when it comes to birds, I have a feeling that walking away will not work. If she is in an emotional state, can she really learn? Will taking her away cause more anxiety next time? From what I hear, more live flyers is the ticket; make it the norm. But, what do I know? If it makes you feel better, when I was volunteering and on the line at Masters, I am pretty sure the vast majority crept. The judge would tell the handler to bring the dog back to heel. Only one broke. But, I know what you mean about criteria. I'm the same way.

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      Congratulations on a well deserved ribbon. You are doing it right. I have been working on "cold" honours with my 2 this week. They both broke at the last FT. Like RD my M thinks that every bird down belongs to her. Levy has been as steady as a rock up until that trial. just goes to show that the old adage is true. There are dogs that break and there are dogs that have yet to break! If they learn they can get away with it at a test or trial then you are in big trouble. It may cost the price of an entry to teach the lesson but it may save in the long run. You have worked so hard with RD that she knows why she is being taken off the line .Now enjoy your ribbon before the moment passes and then nose to the grind stone again.

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      Good job!!!!!!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Labradorks View Post
      Congratulations! One down...how many to go?

      If the dog is truly a meth head when it comes to birds, I have a feeling that walking away will not work. If she is in an emotional state, can she really learn? Will taking her away cause more anxiety next time? From what I hear, more live flyers is the ticket; make it the norm. But, what do I know? If it makes you feel better, when I was volunteering and on the line at Masters, I am pretty sure the vast majority crept. The judge would tell the handler to bring the dog back to heel. Only one broke. But, I know what you mean about criteria. I'm the same way.
      I know you've seen RD at the Junior and she didn't jerk me off my feet then. I thought we'd made good progress in training and was amazed at how crazy she was at this first Senior. I will say, she "gains momentum" as the day goes on. She wasn't too bad in the land series. But by the time we got to the water... oh, my!

      I will talk to my training group about more fliers. That is for sure the closest we can get in a non-HT environment. We don't always have someone to shoot them for us. But surely we'll be able to get some in.

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      Congratulations!!!! So when is the next test???
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