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rawill1 · 11-19-2009, 08:56 AM

Scout started phenobarbital on Monday 11/16 at 7 pm. On Wednesday 11/18 she started having accidents in her crate. As it turns out, frequent urination is a side effect of the drug. In just 12 hours, she's had 2 accidents in the house, and numerous accidents in her crate and has received 4 baths. I'm don't know if I can take this! I bought a durable puppy absorbant pad but it turns out it wasn't durable - she ate part of it - hope she doesn't get some kind of blockage now too. Anyone have ideas on what to do? I also bought a crate pad to absorb the urine but I'm afraid she'll eat this too. Need some way to keep her clean! I didn't give her the pill this moring.

hanknamy · 11-19-2009, 09:19 AM

What is the dosage that your dog is getting and how old is the dog.

My female CBR has been on Pheno since last summer. She is getting 1/2 of a 1mg pill twice daily and I have not noticed any change in her urination though she is 7 years old. Talk to your vet about this. I did not know that it was a side effect of the drug.

Patty/Breeder · 11-19-2009, 09:20 AM

How about doggy diapers with sanitary panty liners?

Call and ask the vet if you can reduce the dosage and if that will help with the side effect.

Hopefully this is something that subsides after time on the meds. See what the vet says about that.

rawill1 · 11-19-2009, 11:07 AM

Scout is getting a 30 mg pill 2x a day.

Patty/Breeder · 11-19-2009, 11:51 AM

I have little experience with Pheno but I would call and see if you can reduce the dosage and see if that helps.

3lablady · 11-19-2009, 12:13 PM

You can ask about Potassium Bromide, it works for seizures and is actually safer than Phenobarb. I had my one lab on it and helped with seizures but one side effect is that they seem to be always hungry.

The other thing is to remember when starting a new medication and when there are side effects like your dog is peeing those can resolve in a few weeks sometimes. Might just cut back on how much she's allowed to drink.

Txdogmom5 · 11-19-2009, 04:22 PM

My previous lab was on phenobarb several years but did not have a problem with frequent urination - maybe it is just an adjustment phase and will get better once the drug stabilizes in her system - I do know it is important not to skip doses so I would not recommend skipping anymore.

nmaho · 11-19-2009, 05:26 PM

Call the vet and see if you can build up the dosage slowly over time this might help,.

amyh521 · 11-19-2009, 06:36 PM

I remember when Lola started on pheno, she was a mess.

It will get better. But it may get worse before it gets better.

My main concern was the weakness in her hind legs.

rawill1 · 11-20-2009, 11:39 AM

Thanks. Doctor said to give her 1/2 a pill one time a day and we can build up from there so she can get used to it.

Patty/Breeder · 11-20-2009, 12:10 PM

great. Hoping that does the trick

11-19-2009, 08:56 AM	#1
rawill1 House Broken Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 34	Need Help - Phenobarbital Scout started phenobarbital on Monday 11/16 at 7 pm. On Wednesday 11/18 she started having accidents in her crate. As it turns out, frequent urination is a side effect of the drug. In just 12 hours, she's had 2 accidents in the house, and numerous accidents in her crate and has received 4 baths. I'm don't know if I can take this! I bought a durable puppy absorbant pad but it turns out it wasn't durable - she ate part of it - hope she doesn't get some kind of blockage now too. Anyone have ideas on what to do? I also bought a crate pad to absorb the urine but I'm afraid she'll eat this too. Need some way to keep her clean! I didn't give her the pill this moring.

11-19-2009, 09:20 AM	#3
Patty/Breeder Senior Dog Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Franklin Lakes, NJ Posts: 14,439	How about doggy diapers with sanitary panty liners? Call and ask the vet if you can reduce the dosage and if that will help with the side effect. Hopefully this is something that subsides after time on the meds. See what the vet says about that. __________________ Patty www.snowcolabradors.com

11-19-2009, 12:13 PM	#6
3lablady Contentment Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olympia, Wa Posts: 40,578 My Mood:	You can ask about Potassium Bromide, it works for seizures and is actually safer than Phenobarb. I had my one lab on it and helped with seizures but one side effect is that they seem to be always hungry. The other thing is to remember when starting a new medication and when there are side effects like your dog is peeing those can resolve in a few weeks sometimes. Might just cut back on how much she's allowed to drink. __________________ Gunner 4-26-05 CGC Daisy 5-1-06 Spitfire Dylan 3-30-06 Awesome Mom ~ Barb Old! Ginger 4-17-94 ~ 5-14-06 Forever in our hearts Sadie 7-15-02 ~ 8-09-06 Miss you Maggie 4-15-98 ~ 4-10-08 Our "heart" dog Autumn 2-8-07 ~ 5-02-09 Our sweet girl! Gone too soon!

11-19-2009, 04:22 PM	#7
Txdogmom5 House Broken Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 88	My previous lab was on phenobarb several years but did not have a problem with frequent urination - maybe it is just an adjustment phase and will get better once the drug stabilizes in her system - I do know it is important not to skip doses so I would not recommend skipping anymore. __________________ Home of the 5Pack - Bonnie (15 mos.) Yellow Lab, Clyde (1 yr) Black Lab, Max (10 yrs), Sammy (12 yrs), ZZ (14 yrs) the schnauzers, missing Lena 1998-2009 (my heart lab)

11-19-2009, 05:26 PM	#8
nmaho Senior Dog Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ma Posts: 2,751 My Mood:	Call the vet and see if you can build up the dosage slowly over time this might help,. __________________

11-19-2009, 09:19 AM	#2
hanknamy House Broken Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: illinois Posts: 99 My Mood:	What is the dosage that your dog is getting and how old is the dog. My female CBR has been on Pheno since last summer. She is getting 1/2 of a 1mg pill twice daily and I have not noticed any change in her urination though she is 7 years old. Talk to your vet about this. I did not know that it was a side effect of the drug.

11-19-2009, 11:07 AM	#4
rawill1 House Broken Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 34	Scout is getting a 30 mg pill 2x a day.

11-19-2009, 11:51 AM	#5
Patty/Breeder Senior Dog Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Franklin Lakes, NJ Posts: 14,439	I have little experience with Pheno but I would call and see if you can reduce the dosage and see if that helps.

11-19-2009, 06:36 PM	#9
amyh521 Senior Dog Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 4,805 My Mood:	I remember when Lola started on pheno, she was a mess. It will get better. But it may get worse before it gets better. My main concern was the weakness in her hind legs. __________________ Amy Klaus (rescued 7/05) Very rare Short-Tailed Addisonian Chocolate Lab Lola (resuced 3/06) GSD Kofi, Bill, Oskar (rescued kitties)

11-20-2009, 11:39 AM	#10
rawill1 House Broken Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 34	Thanks. Doctor said to give her 1/2 a pill one time a day and we can build up from there so she can get used to it.

11-20-2009, 12:10 PM	#11
Patty/Breeder Senior Dog Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Franklin Lakes, NJ Posts: 14,439	great. Hoping that does the trick

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