How to Properly Fit A Prong?? - Labrador Retriever Dogs Chat Forum Board - Dogs, Puppies, Photos, Training, Pictures, Rescue Forums

izzy35 · 03-21-2008, 02:12 PM

I've read plenty of threads about prongs here and the one constant in ALL, is "make sure they are fitted properly." Can someone explain how to do that?? Is 19 weeks too young?

Thanks all

mhb · 03-21-2008, 02:58 PM

i do believe that he is too young. im sure more knowledgable folks will speak up.

LabDog · 03-21-2008, 03:11 PM

This link has good photos on how to fit the collar -
http://********.com/fit-prong.htm

Melo is approaching an age when he can benefit from it. But I'd wait a few more weeks. Both my boys were over 5 months old and probably closer to 6 months when I started working with them.

davepete · 03-21-2008, 03:14 PM

IMO it depends on the pup. I've been using a small prong collar with my pup Obi for the past month or so - I probably started it around the 4 month old mark. But he's a pup who is not "sensitive". Some pups are sensitive and require only light corrections. Some are not as sensitive and require heavier ones. Obi is the type that requires heavier corrections - he handles the prong no problem. You have to know your dog to know what's right for him/her.

LabDog · 03-21-2008, 03:15 PM

hmmm, why is it that the site names comes up as asteriks???

it's supposed to read ********.com

ok. weird, I just can't type in the name!

diver03 · 03-21-2008, 03:48 PM

That website was "disallowed" a long time ago.

A prong should fit snugly, up high on the neck under the ears. The prongs should be "standing" on the neck with the chain section at the top (your corrections are a bit different than with a choke collar). You should not be able to slip fingers under it.

Everyone always says "that's too tight" when they see it on properly, but you barely need any correction that way.

IMHO, 19 weeks is too young. A prong collar is a training tool for problems. You should start out training on a flat collar and only use tools if you need them. It is NOT a starter collar, and if you don't know how to use a choke collar, please don't put a prong on your dog.

izzy35 · 03-21-2008, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LabDog

hmmm, why is it that the site names comes up as asteriks???

it's supposed to read ********.com

ok. weird, I just can't type in the name!

LOL!!!!!

yeah i figured he was possibly not yet ready...but think it might be coming, bc he has discovered the OUTDOORS and i see him going in the pulling direction...he's doing good, but may need to resort to this...REALLY SOON!! and which size, not length, but the width??

thx

mixedupdog · 03-21-2008, 03:54 PM

You can't type in the name of that site because it's "banned". Quite some time ago someone from that site came over here and did things that are considered inappropriate, like using two IDs so he could ask himself training questions and respond to them by directing people to that site. He also was rude about other people's advice, in affect saying that the ONE and ONLY way to train was the methods used there. It was an offensive form of SPAM and Woody blocked the poster and banned the site.

This question belongs in the training forum, battmain has a thread with pictures on "how to fit a prong".

izzy35 · 03-21-2008, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diver03

It is NOT a starter collar, and if you don't know how to use a choke collar, please don't put a prong on your dog.

i've used the choke and he will literally choke himself something serious..and won't even stop pulling at times...i feel like it's hurting him, which is what i DON'T want to happen....i wasn't running for a prong, but am definitely keeping options open if his pulling gets out of hand...bc regardless of corrections, he is pulling MORE now...he is currently using a flat collar, bc i didn't like the choker...he pulled so hard on it at times that his SKIN WAS RED around his NECK!!!

totally upset me, so took it off and never put it back on...

izzy35 · 03-21-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mixedupdog

This question belongs in the training forum, battmain has a thread with pictures on "how to fit a prong".

i've looked and can't find...i even went under his name and can't find a thread that he started with that title??

thx for your help

Zoom · 03-21-2008, 04:14 PM

I was taught that the chain section should lie flat on the back of the neck without straining but without any slack to it.

I know that everyone has their own thoughts about prongs and training collars, I just personally feel...uncomfortable, I guess is the word, when I hear people wanting to use a prong on a puppy. Now if this was a full-grown dog you just adopted, I could go for it a little easier, but since he's a puppy, you've "taught" him how to pull and now you're going to correct him for something you've allowed him to learn.

LabDog · 03-21-2008, 04:15 PM

Any luck finding a class or trainer? It really is a better idea to have someone who is experienced show you how to train Melo and use the appropriate training collar when necessary.

izzy35 · 03-21-2008, 04:45 PM

thx all..i'll figure it out..

HeatherGlenES · 03-21-2008, 05:24 PM

izzy35 · 03-21-2008, 05:26 PM

thx for the photo..appreciated

03-21-2008, 02:12 PM	#1
izzy35 They Make Me Smile :-) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,158	How to Properly Fit A Prong?? I've read plenty of threads about prongs here and the one constant in ALL, is "make sure they are fitted properly." Can someone explain how to do that?? Is 19 weeks too young? Thanks all __________________ Jennifer, owned by: Melo, Yellow Boy~~DOB 11/11/07 Reese, Chocolate Girl~~DOB 3/28/08

03-21-2008, 02:58 PM	#2
mhb Senior Dog Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 2,611 My Mood:	i do believe that he is too young. im sure more knowledgable folks will speak up. __________________

03-21-2008, 03:11 PM	#3
LabDog Senior Dog Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 6,182 My Mood:	This link has good photos on how to fit the collar - http://*******.com/fit-prong.htm Melo is approaching an age when he can benefit from it. But I'd wait a few more weeks. Both my boys were over 5 months old and probably closer to 6 months when I started working with them. __________________ Then - Scooby 5.5yrs & Shaggy 13 wks Last edited by LabDog; 03-21-2008 at 03:14 PM.*

03-21-2008, 03:14 PM	#4
davepete Adult Retriever Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 582	IMO it depends on the pup. I've been using a small prong collar with my pup Obi for the past month or so - I probably started it around the 4 month old mark. But he's a pup who is not "sensitive". Some pups are sensitive and require only light corrections. Some are not as sensitive and require heavier ones. Obi is the type that requires heavier corrections - he handles the prong no problem. You have to know your dog to know what's right for him/her. __________________

03-21-2008, 03:48 PM	#6
diver03 Ancient Dog Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buttuckopia Posts: 14,051	That website was "disallowed" a long time ago. A prong should fit snugly, up high on the neck under the ears. The prongs should be "standing" on the neck with the chain section at the top (your corrections are a bit different than with a choke collar). You should not be able to slip fingers under it. Everyone always says "that's too tight" when they see it on properly, but you barely need any correction that way. IMHO, 19 weeks is too young. A prong collar is a training tool for problems. You should start out training on a flat collar and only use tools if you need them. It is NOT a starter collar, and if you don't know how to use a choke collar, please don't put a prong on your dog. __________________ Pru and Wellie, Lucy, Buster, and Rocky A defessus canis est a bonus canis!

03-21-2008, 03:15 PM	#5
LabDog Senior Dog Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 6,182 My Mood:	hmmm, why is it that the site names comes up as asteriks??? it's supposed to read ********.com ok. weird, I just can't type in the name!

03-21-2008, 03:54 PM	#8
mixedupdog 1/2 Lab 1/2 Great Dane Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lakewood, Colorado Posts: 3,937	You can't type in the name of that site because it's "banned". Quite some time ago someone from that site came over here and did things that are considered inappropriate, like using two IDs so he could ask himself training questions and respond to them by directing people to that site. He also was rude about other people's advice, in affect saying that the ONE and ONLY way to train was the methods used there. It was an offensive form of SPAM and Woody blocked the poster and banned the site. This question belongs in the training forum, battmain has a thread with pictures on "how to fit a prong". __________________ I think we are drawn to dogs because they are the uninhibited creatures we might be if we weren’t certain we knew better. GEORGE BIRD EVANS

03-21-2008, 04:14 PM	#11
Zoom Adult Retriever Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 642 My Mood:	I was taught that the chain section should lie flat on the back of the neck without straining but without any slack to it. I know that everyone has their own thoughts about prongs and training collars, I just personally feel...uncomfortable, I guess is the word, when I hear people wanting to use a prong on a puppy. Now if this was a full-grown dog you just adopted, I could go for it a little easier, but since he's a puppy, you've "taught" him how to pull and now you're going to correct him for something you've allowed him to learn. __________________ "Never regret the things you did, only the things you didn't do."

03-21-2008, 04:15 PM	#12
LabDog Senior Dog Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 6,182 My Mood:	Any luck finding a class or trainer? It really is a better idea to have someone who is experienced show you how to train Melo and use the appropriate training collar when necessary.

03-21-2008, 04:45 PM	#13
izzy35 They Make Me Smile :-) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,158	thx all..i'll figure it out..

03-21-2008, 05:24 PM	#14
HeatherGlenES Tiocfaidh ár lá Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Just west of nowhere Posts: 2,235	__________________ Heather Glen English Setters Hamish, AKC/UKC CH Upland Monarch of the Glen RN JH CGC Logan, AKC/UKC CH Cobblestone Summer Sunshine JH CGC Benny, AJ's It's Ben Awhile, Spaniel-x "Handle every situation like a Dog. If you can't eat it or hump it. Piddle on it and walk away."

03-21-2008, 05:26 PM	#15
izzy35 They Make Me Smile :-) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,158	thx for the photo..appreciated

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