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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowshoe View Post
    Did the Vet say you should refrigerate it? Your appt. is late but you need that first thing in the morning pee. Refrigerating will cause crystals to form and precipitate out and might otherwise alter the sample. We tried to get an early morning Vet Appt. Not refrigerating might alter it too, that's a long time.
    Good point!
    You might want to take the sample in and drop it off at the vet first thing when they open, rather than keep it until the very late appointment.

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    Dachshunds ARE notoriously hard to house train. Like you, we would go months without accidents and then a single accident would send us backwards. A strict and consistent potty schedule is an absolute must.

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    Well collecting the sample first thing this morning did NOT go well. So, I got everything ready last night before bed. Put the ladle and a container on the counter, put my boots and coat by the back door because I knew Kota would have to go really bad and wouldn't be able to hold it long. So we came downstairs and I got everything together and we were ready to go out. I had planned to take him out on a leash but didn't get the leash out last night so as not to excite them right before bed. Not even thinking, I opened the door and let them out as I normally do, and he immediately took off running after a rabbit. I started running after him (with my ladle and yelling "no potty!!"-- like that was going to stop him) but by the time I got there he had already gone.

    I tried after he ate breakfast thinking that was at least better than nothing, and took him out on the leash. He was so excited and confused to be on the leash, and noticed the ladle this time that he wouldn't pee at all, and every time I got close to him because I thought he might pee, he pulled away concerned about the ladle. At that point, I had to get ready for work!

    So, I'm going home at lunch to try again. If I can get it, that will be a sample he had been holding for 5 hours... I'm hoping that will be sufficient Does anyone know the significance of the 1st morning sample? I assumed it has something to do with accumulation of the bacteria or something in the urine, would a 5 hour sample be long enough? His 1st morning one would have only been a 7 hour sample to begin with.

    And yes, the vet tech told me to refrigerate it since it was going to be in the evening. Will it alter the sample that much? She didn't even sound the slightest bit concerned about refrigerating it.

    Quote Originally Posted by arentspowell View Post
    Dachshunds ARE notoriously hard to house train. Like you, we would go months without accidents and then a single accident would send us backwards. A strict and consistent potty schedule is an absolute must.
    We plan to have him DNA tested at some point in the near future... but I really think that's what will show up in it (well, assuming the test is accurate in the first place). I'm guessing that his urine sample is going to come back fine, and this is going to be a training issue we're dealing with... so I'll probably be starting all over again like he was a brand new puppy we brought home.
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    Urine held overnight will be more concentrated. Since you didn't get it this morning and your appt is not till this eveing then I'd try leaving him till just before the appt., that should be almost as concentrated as the morning one would have been. Leash him. Take him out alone too, the other dog will just get in your way. It will help if someone can hold him and the other person get the sample, especially for your first time or his first time.

    If your Vet KNows ahead when you got the sample and how long it was refrigerated then she can made adjustments for the amount of precipitate but she'll be using her best guess. You should always write on the sample the time you got it and how long since he'd been out.

    You'd think it would go without saying but all my Vets have shared stories about people bringing samples in dirty containers. You'd think people would know the pickle juice should have been scalded out first but apparently they, a few, don't.
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    My guys get taken out around midnight and Danny's out again around 4:30 a.m. after eating. The vet has commented about lesser concentration but it's been OK (for annual physicals, not because anything was suspected). If smell is any indicator, though, there are mornings where his pee should be solid, if you know what I mean.

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    I wouldn't stress too much trying to get a urine sample, your vet can always collect urine directly from the bladder utilizing cystocentesis, (inserting a sterile needle into the bladder and extracting urine into a syringe), this way the sample will be a sterile collection and better for a urinalysis anyways.

    Hoping for good news

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    Well... no UTI. I was able to get a sample at lunch and give that to them, and all was fine. Then Dakota submissive urinated all over the table and the vet (to be fair, he was poking and prodding all over his bladder, and he even said so) and he took a sample from that as well and it was all fine.

    From everything the vet can tell, he feels it is very much just an immaturity thing. Dakota was abandoned as a stray at such a young age that he probably really isn't where he should be for his age because he probably never had any training whatsoever. He thinks it is all just stuff he'll grow out of with consistent training. So back to the beginning we go. He recommended that also on top of the consistent and frequent training, that we also withhold water a bit. This is a little difficult with the two dogs, but he said to start by not filling their bowls up all the way, and picking it up a couple hours before bedtime (which we've been doing on and off anyway). We've already been doing all the other stuff (letting him out after eating, drinking, playing, napping, etc.) The only thing I haven't been doing is going out with him and treating him after he goes, which I'll start doing tonight, and taking him out on our own every so often instead of waiting for him to try and tell us. So I think we're on the right track... we'll see.

    When the vet walked into the room, he said this to me:

    Vet: Having some trouble with housebreaking Dakota, huh?
    Me: Yep, it's been a challenge.
    Vet: Yah, he's not a Labrador, huh?
    Me: No, he's most definitely not...

    Made me laugh...
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    Glad you got good news, no UTI. Have patience, train in a positive way, more patience, treat, more patience, over the top praise. Oh, did I say have patience.
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