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    See I thought the opposite and was probably freaking out over nothing!!!

    We always take collars off when crating but keeping a collar w/short leash on her helps to immediately stop her from annoying him when things get too elevated or wandering in to trouble around the house.

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    I could not use a collar and leash on mine as a pup (besides walks, etc., but talking about just being in the house or yard) because of the collar grabbing and choking and my older one also likes to "walk" other dogs. To get the puppy away from him or anything else, I used a treat and praise and clapping, etc. to get the puppy to do as I asked without resorting to touching, pulling, or grabbing, where they can learn to evade or ignore unless you are standing right there. It takes more work, I will warn you. And it can be frustrating. And you always have to be on top of it. You must go to the puppy, get his attention, and get him to do what you want. It's taught in the puppy STAR class which many training facilities are adopting as a first training session for puppies under 6 months, before basic obedience. I really liked it a lot for my pup.

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    Hmmmm interesting! It's funny because we have taken the 2 yr old to a handful of positive reward training classes (w/emphasis on treating) but I didn't even think to begin training her this way at this age!! She's definitely food drive so keeping food on hand is a great idea I didn't even think to use?!?!
    I think this has thrown us for a loop and we are over thinking everything!!!! We had planned on going over a few of the puppy manners class lessons with her until she's old enough to attend classes so I guess now is the perfect time to begin!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow153 View Post
    Hmmmm interesting! It's funny because we have taken the 2 yr old to a handful of positive reward training classes (w/emphasis on treating) but I didn't even think to begin training her this way at this age!! She's definitely food drive so keeping food on hand is a great idea I didn't even think to use?!?!
    I think this has thrown us for a loop and we are over thinking everything!!!! We had planned on going over a few of the puppy manners class lessons with her until she's old enough to attend classes so I guess now is the perfect time to begin!!!!
    I highly recommend the puppy STAR class. It was my first one with my younger dog and it was great! It really teaches you and the dog to work together and not rely on the leash for training, but just to keep the dog with you. I keep treats in my pockets and in bowls around my house. Now that my pup is older, I have a treat drawer, so if he does something that deserves a treat reward, we run to the drawer and I get him one. With a little pup though, they need to be treated right away and the food can be used for luring as well.

    Puppy STAR classes are for puppies as young as 10 weeks and with their first two sets of vaccinations underway, I believe. You can talk to your trainer about the age/vaccination specifics. Do not wait until 4 months to take your first class. Puppy STAR usually includes puppy socialization the final 15 minutes of class where the instructors will help you determine what is and is not appropriate and how to deal with different behaviors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Labradorks View Post
    I highly recommend the puppy STAR class. It was my first one with my younger dog and it was great! It really teaches you and the dog to work together and not rely on the leash for training, but just to keep the dog with you. I keep treats in my pockets and in bowls around my house. Now that my pup is older, I have a treat drawer, so if he does something that deserves a treat reward, we run to the drawer and I get him one. With a little pup though, they need to be treated right away and the food can be used for luring as well.

    Puppy STAR classes are for puppies as young as 10 weeks and with their first two sets of vaccinations underway, I believe. You can talk to your trainer about the age/vaccination specifics. Do not wait until 4 months to take your first class. Puppy STAR usually includes puppy socialization the final 15 minutes of class where the instructors will help you determine what is and is not appropriate and how to deal with different behaviors.
    yes we are currently looking in to classes. For some reason I thought we'd have to wait till 12 weeks but I see one place says 8wks this other 9. I know it's about the vaccinations so......one of the places emphasizes not using the leash so much so I am planning on looking in to start up times after work!!

    oh and the 'treat drawer' also works for us! With the two yr old whenever he does something good in the house, we look at him and say 'what!!!! What do you get!!!!!!' And it seriously looks like he knows what were thinking and runs in to the kitchen to get a treat from our 'treat cabinet'

    gotta love these dogs!!!!!!

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    Just a quick update: things seem to be settling down since that first week! At this point, the 2 yr old is allowing the pup to play bite and doesn't even react. It's not until she goes for his belly, tail or gets too excited does he begin to growl and correct her if necessary but that's what he should do so.....

    She is learning her role because when she's being a goof and is corrected, she immediately flips on her belly or bows her head to him and goes to lay down. It's funny because initially I was trying to stop him but now I see how he's helping the situation!!!!

    He has also started sharing his toys with her and I think he's connecting the dots that she may not be all bad once she grows up a bit and they can pals around together!!

    Either way, we are still never leaving them alone together and probably won't for months to come but the situation has gotten much better and hopefully someday they will be best buds!!!!!

    Dont want to sound silly but my eyes welled up after reading that last line because we were only trying to give him a true friend but that first week had us thinking we'd made a huge mistake by adding her! But now I see there may very well be a happy ending to this story!!!!

    Thanks everyone who gave me hope and I will keep you updated!!!!

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    I think adding when the older dog is about two is perfect....based on my experience.

    We'd gotten Hershey when Brutus was about 10 (we never had his exact DOB...just what his previous owner had used) and Bru's health started to decline within a few months. Hersh's energy was just too much for Bru to keep up with. His arthritis started to act up (he'd had no issues with that since we'd taken weight off him when we first got him seven years previously) and he was overheating a bit and developed intermittent seizures. That's how we ended up getting Honey who, at four months, was already being rehomed (presumably because of allergies of the children in the family....who weren't showing any signs of problems when we visited....but most likely because she had horrible habits and the husband didn't want a dog anyway). Hershey and Bru liked Honey and our Akita girl didn't eat her....so Honey became our fourth dog. Bru was able to relax.

    It sounds like your two have figured things out to a good degree. Your vigilance has paid off.

    For what it's worth, all of mine have always gone naked in the house....no collars for teeth to get caught in during rounds of bitey face or whatever.

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    I bet they will be best friends, if they aren't already! It sounds like your oldest is behaving very appropriately and the baby is learning quickly.

    I 2nd the STAR puppy classes, it is an awesome program! Maxx started at 10 weeks and we had a great time learning together.

    My 2 are also "naked" unless they are being walked. I have heard of too many accidents and tragic outcomes when collars are left on in multiple dog households. If you are able to get in to to a puppy STAR class they teach you ways to deal with getting the attention of your puppy without having to grab them. Enjoy your new adventure!
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