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    Thanks for more advice. On our walks, I always have a ball with me to throw if she goes for my legs or jumps. Also plenty of sticks around to keep throwing. But if I don't have anything with me, stopping won't help with Lucy. She would wait all day for me to start walking again and keep up the bad behavior. I just end the walk as soon as I can get home.

    I tell you, I have read about everything there is to read on the web about this and most of the stuff I am trying to do the way they say to do it. But some things simply don't work with Lucy. I'm sure time is what I need. Lucy's owners were rarin' to get rid of their pups because they had 2 large litters in a small home so when she called, we went right over and picked up the little fur ball.

    Anybody noticed that your pup is worse at different times of day? Late evenings are always bad, I guess because she is tired and is pushing herself to keep going. Reminds me of Sundowner's Syndrome in nursing home patients.

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    I think you've nailed sundowning there. If Lucy sleeps well in her crate, you might consider putting her in for an enforced nap a few times a day if she doesn't seem to nap on her own. Whether they seemed tired or not I put my pups in for a nap mid-morning and mid-to-late afternoon. Just like a cranky child, they often seemed more pleasant to be around if they weren't overtired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldwetnoz View Post
    SamsonsMom: Sorry about your finger. I am lucky I haven't had a bite that bad. Hubby and I both have bites and scars on our arms and hands. The teeth come flying at you before you know it so I can relate! I also have 2 cats and a few days a week I let them out and Lucy is so delighted to have someone to chase and harass! My tom cat stands up to her and she can't get too close without a slap and a hiss. Worse problem is my elderly chihuahua who isn't in good health enough to have to fight her off.
    Anyway, she is trained to go into her crate at night in the house so at least we have go that conquered.

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    The finger was a complete shock! Perfect timing of me feeling the bite, quickly pulling my hand back, and him chomping down. It hurt like hell but we made it through. He is much much better on the bites now. He's doing very well with "easy". A few times, he chomped down very good on my hand and I was able to get a finger toward the back of his mouth and he'd release. Lucy is adorable!!! Keep working at it because the payoff is going to be a loving, sweet, best friend that wants nothing more but to please you!

    Asher active all the time (your other post). In the morning after breakfast he gets a 30 minute time out to rest the belly (I honestly don't see how 2.5 cups of kibble fits in that belly). Once out, he's ready to go. I work so he's crated during the day. I have a pet sitter that comes over mid-point for about 45 minutes. When I get home, my evening is nothing but Asher and Samson playing like crazy. No more coming home after a stressful day at work and relaxing! :-) On the weekends, he's on the go all day. I put him in the crate for mid morning naps and late afternoon. Samson does a great job wearing him out. I take them for rides in the car (preparing for our trip to Outer Banks in a few weeks). He seems to do well. Puppy class on Saturday wears him out which is wonderful. I have a nice few hours Saturday evening when he's passed out. All in all, he's a little terror! lol If I try to correct Asher, Samson goes nuts. Has to be there barking and standing right by Asher as if to say "I've got this mom!" I'll need to separate them more so I can work more on the commands with Asher. My challenge on the leash is that neighbors all want to pet him. I took him to the pet store and of course everyone wants to come up and see him. Makes it impossible for me to train him. I wonder if they make puppy vests that say "training - do not approach?" ha.

    Keep us updated!

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    My 11 month old still can get mouthy. hang in there.

    1) We have small kids in the house so i would use vicks on the ankle. taught her to not chase my 5 yr old ankles.
    2) When she get mouthy i will put a drop of lavander oil in the mouth.
    3) Lavender oil on my hand. My friend thought 6 3 / 240 lbs man smelling like lavender was funny but hey it saved my hands . Not she knows the bottle and me and wife has a few left overs, when she trys to get mouthy all we do is show the bottle and she whines and barks and leaves us alone. At 75 lbs she is too big for physical intervention. Like get the zoombies some times and trying to jump on the wife or kids watching tv
    4) Chew toys - small towels frozen with chicken stock.
    5) Frozen baby carrots - she still loves these.
    6) At 6-7 months i started bully sticks and knees to chew on.
    7) As most day cares have a fixed above 6 month policy, we actually sent gigi to day care from 3 months so she can be taught by older dogs some manners. i think she did learn a bit.
    8) She started training and puppy social at 12 weeks. again puppy`s teach other alot of correction.

    good luck its gets better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsonsMom View Post
    The finger was a complete shock! Perfect timing of me feeling the bite, quickly pulling my hand back, and him chomping down. It hurt like hell but we made it through. He is much much better on the bites now. He's doing very well with "easy". A few times, he chomped down very good on my hand and I was able to get a finger toward the back of his mouth and he'd release. Lucy is adorable!!! Keep working at it because the payoff is going to be a loving, sweet, best friend that wants nothing more but to please you!

    Asher active all the time (your other post). In the morning after breakfast he gets a 30 minute time out to rest the belly (I honestly don't see how 2.5 cups of kibble fits in that belly). Once out, he's ready to go. I work so he's crated during the day. I have a pet sitter that comes over mid-point for about 45 minutes. When I get home, my evening is nothing but Asher and Samson playing like crazy. No more coming home after a stressful day at work and relaxing! :-) On the weekends, he's on the go all day. I put him in the crate for mid morning naps and late afternoon. Samson does a great job wearing him out. I take them for rides in the car (preparing for our trip to Outer Banks in a few weeks). He seems to do well. Puppy class on Saturday wears him out which is wonderful. I have a nice few hours Saturday evening when he's passed out. All in all, he's a little terror! lol If I try to correct Asher, Samson goes nuts. Has to be there barking and standing right by Asher as if to say "I've got this mom!" I'll need to separate them more so I can work more on the commands with Asher. My challenge on the leash is that neighbors all want to pet him. I took him to the pet store and of course everyone wants to come up and see him. Makes it impossible for me to train him. I wonder if they make puppy vests that say "training - do not approach?" ha.

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    Yep they make one and it seems to work. It's the only way I can walk mine in public. People seem to have become conscious of the importance of dogs in training. They leave her alone. And PETSMART is the worst. The cashiers always have cookies and Rocket Dog knows this. I got so upset when I told one of them NO... She's being a butt! Don't give it to her unless she's sitting quietly. But the woman dangled it over my dog's head. Ach! It was a disaster. But Home Depot... no problem. Her leash obedience is fine.

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    Coldwetnose... are you saying that you can't walk your pup without her going for your legs, and because she's biting at your legs you terminate the walk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuMicks View Post
    Yep they make one and it seems to work. It's the only way I can walk mine in public. People seem to have become conscious of the importance of dogs in training. They leave her alone. And PETSMART is the worst. The cashiers always have cookies and Rocket Dog knows this. I got so upset when I told one of them NO... She's being a butt! Don't give it to her unless she's sitting quietly. But the woman dangled it over my dog's head. Ach! It was a disaster. But Home Depot... no problem. Her leash obedience is fine.
    Fantastic!! I'm getting that. Thanks Yes, Saturday took him for his first pet store visit and to get microchipped. I finally had to pick him up because people kept petting him and enticing him. So I'm standing in line holding him and he's calm. Lady in front of me turns and starts cooing and awing and of course he tries to jump out of my arms. I get the "I'm so sorry, I should not have done that." I just smiled and fought back the angry words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldwetnoz View Post
    Anybody noticed that your pup is worse at different times of day? Late evenings are always bad, I guess because she is tired and is pushing herself to keep going. Reminds me of Sundowner's Syndrome in nursing home patients.
    Referred to as the .Zoombies.

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    Any input from the breeder? they usually know their dogs and what works. You may need to start working a schedule. if they can play and exercise at a specific time each day, you might find that the dog is calm and mellow and tired when you need them to be, like during YOUR dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenC View Post
    Any input from the breeder? they usually know their dogs and what works. You may need to start working a schedule. if they can play and exercise at a specific time each day, you might find that the dog is calm and mellow and tired when you need them to be, like during YOUR dinner.
    Since the breeder let the pups go at 6 weeks, I doubt they would be a good source of advice.
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