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    Our walks are getting much better now because Lucy is getting more and more interested in the world around her. We usually do free walks because that's the way we have raised many good dogs out here on our land.
    Lucy took her first walk to our pond today and she was sorta scared of it; went to the edge, ran back, doing a few wide circles that we call "running fits" or "happy fits"!

    But I do train her on the leash sometimes and she still holds the leash in her mouth most of the time. But you know what? I stopped getting mad about it and just let her keep it because we will only need to use the leash for vet visits, anyway.

    The knee works pretty good for jumping and giving her a distraction for biting, which is really not biting, but jumping open mouthed and coming in contact with our flesh! She hasn't got an aggressive bone in her body. She is getting bigger and more beautiful every day and I have no doubt we will make it through puppyhood with all the effort we are putting in it.

    Labradorks, I think you went too far with your comments. I have no intention of surrendering Lucy to a rescue group.
    As for the breeders, I think they are nice people who were overwhelmed with 2 large litters of Lab pups at once. Except for fleas, the puppies were fat and healthy. So I really don't mean to bash the breeders. This was not a puppy mill. I am a member of the HSUS and I abhor even the thought of puppy mills.

    As for training: I try lots of techniques that are mentioned here, but if it doesn't work, I'll try something else no matter how well it is working for someone else''s dog. Just glad to see so many different training tips in one place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldwetnoz View Post
    Labradorks, I think you went too far with your comments. I have no intention of surrendering Lucy to a rescue group.
    I was responding to your original post which states: We are even thinking that is we don't see improvement soon we may just give up the fight.

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    Despair. We had a dog with a behavioral problem and (after 2 major surgeries) my husband put his foot down and said, If this happens again, we have to put him down. Worst night of my life.

    I get it.

    (No, we didn't put him down, but the behavioral therapy cost 2K.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldwetnoz View Post
    I am a member of the HSUS
    I just wanted you to know that the HSUS is not a very pet friendly organization, and hardly has pet welfare in mind. In fact, they would like to see all pet ownership and companion animals come to an end, the sooner the better. Most people that support the HSUS or PETA don't realize this, and feel that they are donating for the good of the animals, when nothing could be further from the truth.

    HumaneWatch | 10 Things You Should Know About HSUS

    If you’re visiting this site for the first time thanks to our ad in USA Today–welcome! Here’s the full list of things you should know about the so-called “Humane Society” of the United States, starting with the three in our ad. It’s a story of financial malfeasance and misrepresentation. But the local humane societies across America are not affiliated with HSUS. So, do your research, but please try to help your local shelter. Click on the links for more information.
    10 Things You Should Know About HSUS
    1. HSUS raises millions of dollars from American animal lovers through manipulative advertising. An analysis of HSUS’s TV fundraising determined that more than 85 percent of the animals shown were cats and dogs. However, HSUS doesn’t run a single pet shelter and only gives 1 percent of the money it raises to pet shelters while sucking money out of local communities.
    2. HSUS’s own donors and local shelters feel wronged. A poll of self-identified HSUS donors found 80 percent thought HSUS “misleads people” about their connections to pet shelters and 75 percent were less likely to support the group when they found out the truth. And according to a poll of animal shelters most agree that “HSUS misleads people into thinking it is associated with local animal shelters.”
    3. HSUS puts more into its pension plan and Caribbean hedge funds than it gives to pet shelters. Between 2012 and 2014, HSUS put over $100 million in Caribbean investments while also putting nearly $10 million into its pension plan.
    4. While it raises money with pictures of cats and dogs, HSUS has an anti-meat vegan agenda. Speaking to an animal rights conference in 2006, HSUS’s then-vice president for farm animal issues stated that HSUS’s goal is to “get rid of the entire [animal agriculture] industry” and that “we don’t want any of these animals to be raised and killed.”
    5. In May 2014, HSUS was part of a $15.75 million settlement of a federal racketeering lawsuit. Feld Entertainment sued HSUS, two of its in-house lawyers, and others under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act for bribery, obstruction of justice, fraud, and other torts. Court documents indicate that HSUS sent several checks as part of an alleged witness-payment scheme.
    6. HSUS’s senior management includes others who have voiced support for terroristic acts. HSUS chief policy officer Mike Markarian has written that “A perfect example of effective rebellion is an Animal Liberation Front raid on a laboratory.” HSUS food policy director Matt Prescott, meanwhile, has written that “I also believe in the actions of the ALF and other such groups.” (Prescott is a former PETA activist.)
    7. HSUS’s senior management includes a former spokesman for the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), a criminal group designated as “terrorists” by the FBI. HSUS president Wayne Pacelle hired John “J.P.” Goodwin in 1997, the same year Goodwin described himself as “spokesperson for the ALF” while he fielded media calls in the wake of an ALF arson attack at a California meat processing plant. In 1997, when asked by reporters for a reaction to an ALF arson fire at a farmer’s feed co-op in Utah (which nearly killed a family sleeping on the premises), Goodwin replied, “We’re ecstatic.”
    8. HSUS receives poor charity-evaluation marks. CharityWatch (formerly the American Institute of Philanthropy) has issued several “D” ratings for HSUS in recent years over the group’s wasteful spending practices. Additionally, the 2013 Animal People News Watchdog Report discovered that HSUS spends 55 percent of its budget on overhead costs.
    9. HSUS’s CEO endorsed convicted dogfighting kingpin Michael Vick getting another pet. After Vick got out of prison, HSUS CEO Wayne Pacelle told the press that he thought Vick “would do a good job as a pet owner.” This startling comment came after Vick’s new employer, the Philadelphia Eagle, made a $50,000 “grant” to HSUS.
    10. Given the massive size of its budget, HSUS does relatively little hands-on care for animals. While HSUS claims it “saves” more animals than any other animal protection group in the US, much of the “care” HSUS provides is in the form of spay-neuter assistance. In fact, local groups that operate on considerably slimmer budgets, such as the Houston SPCA, provide direct care to more animals than HSUS does.


    As we’ve previously reported, only about 1% of the budget of the deceptively named Humane Society of the United States goes to local pet shelters, and the organization doesn’t operate any shelters of its own. Not that you’d learn these facts from HSUS’s ads, which are full of dogs and cats.
    An examination of HSUS’s 2013 tax return (the most recent available) reveals that although the extreme animal-liberation group took in more than $130 millionin revenues, very little went to local pet shelters. How much went to help pet shelters in your state? Take a look at the map below (PDF). The answer may shock you.

    Of its $130 million in revenues, HSUS gave less than $10,000 to help local pet shelters care for pets in 29 states. Shelters in 11 states – Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Iowa, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Nevada, Rhode Island, Utah, and Wyoming – didn’t receive a single dime from HSUS to help them care for pets.
    If only 1% of HSUS’s budget goes to local pet shelters, where does the other 99% go? A few examples of wasteful HSUS spending:


    Instead of funding the lavish lifestyles of HSUS execs who are socking away your donations in off-shore hedge funds, consider donating to pet shelters in your area.

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    This sounds like exactly how our Mellow was. She's now 8 months old & we had her since she was 6 wks old. A lot of patience & time will heal all wounds. She didn't calm down a little until the last few months. She always listened to me, but terrorized my girlfriend. Probably a dominance thing seeing me as the alpha & my girlfriend as secondary in command, by the more playful friend. She recently discovered the can-filled method where she has a can filled with pennies & it works wonders for her. I don't know if this will work for her at 3 months, but you can try. We kept teaching her not to bite by saying "no bites" & disciplining her when necessary. It's a fine balance of brute force & time outs with ours. I can tell you that she will get better. Lots of toys so she knows what is ok to chew on & what is not. We can trust her now to be home alone up to 4-5 hours & come home with nothing destroyed. Again, we watched her like hawks in the beginning & disciplined when necessary & used a lot of positive reinforcement. Also we took her puppy training classes & lots of physical activities to wear her out. The jumping thing has died down a lot too. They're very intelligent animals & I think they get bored way too easily. My girlfriend had two melt downs during the early periods with Mellow. It was torture for a little while, but we are so happy we stuck through it. She is a such a good dog now & so smart. I wish you luck & hope you stick it through. Sometimes the best ones to raise are the toughest in the very beginning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelley View Post
    I just wanted you to know that the HSUS is not a very pet friendly organization, and hardly has pet welfare in mind.
    I kinda wanted to mention this... but I know that many contributors to HSUS have pure motives for giving.

    I had a run-in with an animal rights person and the Humane Society "officer" hired by the county to do their animal control duties. It illustrates Shelley's point.

    I'd been out training my dog. I parked at the ball-diamond where my grandson was playing. While I was at the game, the Animal Rights warrior attempted to open my truck and release my dog. (She had no leash. She was riding a moped. She flat out was going to release my dog and disappear.) The truck was locked. When I walked up to my truck she verbally assaulted me. In my face. Ugly. Rude. Threatening. (I still get incredibly upset when I think about it.)

    So having called the Humane Society "officer", she putted off on her moped. I waited at my truck for the guy.

    My truck was parked in the shade. I have an insulated cap. I had the windows open and screens down. The putative violation I'd committed was leaving a dog in a hot vehicle. I asked the officer if he could measure the temperature in my truck. He had some sort of thermister-thinger. The back of my truck read 80 degrees. I asked him to measure the ambient temperature. He read it as 111 degrees (over 30 degrees cooler inside the truck.) The high recorded by the weather service that day was 90 degrees. So his device was wildly inaccurate.

    BUT... he gave me a "warning". (Had he read the temp as 81 degrees... he assured me... I would have been cited.)

    I researched our state laws regarding dog containment and hot cars etc. and this "officer" was way off-base, did not know the statutes. And, basically wanted me to expose my dog to dangerous (by his measurements) temperatures in the parking lot, instead of the cooler insulated and ventilated bed of my truck. Think about that.

    The point is this... it wasn't about my dog's health. For the animal rights loon and the officer, I had no right to contain my dog. End of story. That is the real and well documented agenda of today's HSUS and other animal RIGHTS (not welfare) organizations.

    But not many people know this.

    (When I think what might have happened if I hadn't locked my truck cap... it just makes me sick.)
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    This makes me ill too... Thank Dog that turned out the way it did.... I can't even imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahojda80 View Post
    teaching her not to bite by saying "no bites" & disciplining her when necessary. I can tell you that she will get better. Sometimes the best ones to raise are the toughest in the very beginning.

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    Thank you for these positive comments! Lately we have tried some of our own training techniques with her and seen results. Everytime there has been a bite, it was the result of us getting in the way of a flying happy tooth. I'll be so glad when she reaches the age when she licks us. At this point I'd love to be licked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldwetnoz View Post
    Thank you for these positive comments! Lately we have tried some of our own training techniques with her and seen results. Everytime there has been a bite, it was the result of us getting in the way of a flying happy tooth. I'll be so glad when she reaches the age when she licks us. At this point I'd love to be licked!
    Good job. Just stay consistent with your standards and you'll be shaping her into a nice pet.

 



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