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      Hurrah, indeed! I think that they usually catch on.

      I might add one thing: So the trick is to never let them go INSIDE and to reward the heck out of every time they do their business OUTSIDE. (A double whammy approach.) So, if you are still having difficulties you might use the old tether-to-my-belt-loop approach. If pup is never more than 6 feet from you, you'll notice immediately when they are about to let it go... and run them out quickly, whereupon you get the chance to make silly sounds all over her and make her think she is the most AMAZING DOG IN THE WHOLE WORLD!!!

      I tie my puppies to myself all day. And if you don't crate at night, you can put a blanket down by the head of the bed on your side and tie pup to your bedpost on a pretty short lead (3-4 feet.) That way you'll hear if she gets restless and can run her outside and tell her again that she's the most AMAZING DOG THAT EVER LIVED!!! (Of course, when your neighbors see you dancing around yelling wooo-hoo!!! and clapping in the dark in your night clothes, you may have some explaining to do.)

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      This morning after her walk she came back in and piddled. I scolded her
      Thoughts these days are you shouldn't scold. Apparently you run the danger they think they are being scolded for the piddle and not WHERE they did it. Just quietly clean up and reward when she piddles outside. ONe trick I used is to put the food or water bowl in previous piddle spots, after enzyme cleaning the spots. Most don't want to eliminate near where they eat and drink.
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      Well it’s not a good day for toilet training here. It’s pouring down. No training pad but she has piddled on the floor once today. She piddled when I walked her . have been continually being putting her out but she still hasn’t done the other. Also last night at the end of training another dog done a packet so Nellie followed suit by doing both ! Gggrrr mind you she had so many treats I am not surprised she couldn’t contain herself .

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nelliedog View Post
      Well it’s not a good day for toilet training here. It’s pouring down. No training pad but she has piddled on the floor once today. She piddled when I walked her . have been continually being putting her out but she still hasn’t done the other. Also last night at the end of training another dog done a packet so Nellie followed suit by doing both ! Gggrrr mind you she had so many treats I am not surprised she couldn’t contain herself .
      So here's the dog-thing that we can use to get this done. They do not mess their own little area. That's why (honestly) the crate is SOOooo useful. Trust me, she will hold it as long as she possibly can if she's crated. Let some urine collect in that little puppy bladder, then run her our and let her pee. The physical relief is a physical reward for the behavior, and then your happiness with her is an emotional reward.

      When you cannot watch her or be in her immediate vicinity, crate her. Honestly, you'll be amazed at how fast things will go after that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nelliedog View Post
      Well it’s not a good day for toilet training here. It’s pouring down. No training pad but she has piddled on the floor once today. She piddled when I walked her . have been continually being putting her out but she still hasn’t done the other. Also last night at the end of training another dog done a packet so Nellie followed suit by doing both ! Gggrrr mind you she had so many treats I am not surprised she couldn’t contain herself .
      are you going outside with her? During training you really need to always go out with them, or even go for a walk if needed to get them to go.

      And yes actually pooping in class isn't that unusual, especially if they are getting a lot of food and moving a lot. My adult, fully trained dog, couldn't get thru flyball class most times without pooping. I was slow on recognizing ALL her signs but quickly learned. I'd pop out real quick mid-class after that (or if I saw the signs) and we didn't have issues after that. In that case it was less about food and more about tugging, which for some reason, lead to her having to poop

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tanya View Post
      are you going outside with her? During training you really need to always go out with them, or even go for a walk if needed to get them to go.

      And yes actually pooping in class isn't that unusual, especially if they are getting a lot of food and moving a lot. My adult, fully trained dog, couldn't get thru flyball class most times without pooping. I was slow on recognizing ALL her signs but quickly learned. I'd pop out real quick mid-class after that (or if I saw the signs) and we didn't have issues after that. In that case it was less about food and more about tugging, which for some reason, lead to her having to poop
      Yes, I have a friend with a 3 year old Golden that needs to poop during class, and that dog already has several Obedience titles. Apparently doing directed jumping in Utility is very, um, stimulating.

      To the OP, I wouldn’t worry about that aspect, but as TuMicks says a crate can work wonders. Mine love their crates - we haven’t locked them in in a long time, but they still go in there to nap on their own.

      Also, I wouldn’t scold after they’ve already had an accident (the dog won’t understand), but if you catch her in the act, I would try to startle her by (for example) saying “No”, clap or otherwise try to interrupt her mid-stream, then take her outside and have a huge party when she finishes (might take a few minutes for her to get back on track). The breeder of my first lab said that by giving them a chance to make a mistake, they get more information. That way they know you like them doing it outdoors AND you don’t like them doing it indoors. Timing is key with this though, which is why keeping her tethered can be useful, although I’ve never done it.
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      If you are right there when she starts, immediately pick her up (cradling the back legs make them stop going) and take her outside, as soon as she goes outside praise, praise and praise some more.
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      I do that and I try and watch her at all times too but by the time I get to her it’s to late 

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      Thank you all for the tips she has improved by the change of strategy ie I got rid of training pad , I close all doors and watch her like a hawk. Today I went out for a couple of hours it was all clean when I got home . I let her out and she went for a widely straight away. I had a clean day yesterday and only one puddle the day before....here’s hoping and fingers crossed. She still has to actually go to door but seems to be getting the hang of going outside 👍

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      Wonderful! Keep up the good work.

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      I was despairing that Elle would ever get the picture. She was much harder to housetrain than M and M was a January pup. The days were going well but I could not seem to time the first poop of the morning right. So this last week I have fed her a half hour earlier and put her out a 6, 8:30 and 11. This seems to have done the trick. No more early morning surprises. This morning she was out a 4:00 as her buddy Luna was up dark and early. Brought them both in and everyone went back to sleep.

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