Rosie’sMom (02-04-2019)
Molly was a Piranha I started teaching her gentle I have never had as mouthy a puppy before. I know all the efforts worked eventually. I had to come up with lots of games to help her relieve energy. One thing I did was not make it easy at meal times. First 10 to 20 pieces of kibble was training her to sit and be gentle. The rest got hidden and thrown around the house. Made her think and work for her food.
Stick with it.
Rosie’sMom (02-04-2019)
While the lip curl can work, it can also make some dogs hand shy. I don't want my dogs fearing my hands near their mouths or thinking I'm going to hurt them. I work really hard on my dogs not only accepting my hands on them, but I shape them to at least tolerate it well if not enjoy them. I prefer a cooperative 80 lb dog vs. one that has to be wrestled for vet care. And, there are a LOT of dogs out there who will just ramp up, get mad, and bite harder. Most trainers list this under things to never do when a puppy bites.
Rosie’sMom (02-04-2019)
Here’s a good article on this topic: From the Mouths of Puppies Chilbrook Labradors
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barry581 (01-30-2019)
Most of this is good except the first part. We are not dogs. And our puppies know that. Dogs have timing, consistency and, well, dog behavior. We do not. Humans have to teach their puppies their language, not pretend to know dog language. Because, frankly, we don't know it and 99.9% of us are not good at it!
Back in the old days, I did do the mouth closing, lip on tooth thing. Did it work? In some cases it made my dogs not really want to play with me, so yeah, I guess it did. I stopped doing this three dogs ago. I use different tactics with success and without dogs that are weary of my hands on their muzzles.
Here's one more from the same breeder / trainer: Bite Inhibition Chilbrook Labradors
barry581 (01-30-2019), Rosie’sMom (02-04-2019)
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Rosie’sMom (02-04-2019)
I have not had a piranha puppy who bit that much. Oban did bite a bit but I found ways to play that kept my hands and face away from him. Fetch was good. But he was a winter puppy and it was cold and snowy the year we got him and he was outside a lot. We had several days with highs of -30C (colder so far, than this year, for us) and then I would watch for signs he was cold, holding up a little foot. We made pee paths in the snow so he could run around and chase us and he loved it. I think the amount of play outside might have helped a lot to curb any biting. I know it might be colder where you are but puppies can take more cold than you think, if you make it fun for them. Worth a try?
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Scream VERY loudly, "OUCH, NO BITE!!!" EVERY time the Rosie bites, then turn your back on her with your hands crossed over your chest, so that Rosie can't reach your fingers. Ignore her while she jumps around like a crazy fool behind you. The total lack of attention kills them, and it will eventually calm them down. When you turn back around, repeat your reaction if Rosie starts nipping again. Be consistent. I had to teach my 4 year old granddaughter to do this with Lido, when he kept jumping on her. At first, my granddaughter would shriek and run, which ramped Lido up even more. I sat my granddaughter down and explained that her behavior was making things worse, and that if she'd turn her back on Lido with her hands over her chest, he'd get bored and stop. My granddaughter FINALLY did it on her own one time (I was SO PROUD!), and lo and behold, Lido nosed around for a few seconds, then walked away. PARTY time!! Of course, we had to have refresher reminders from time-to-time. After all, she's only 4, lol!
barry581 (02-01-2019), bmathers (01-31-2019), Wwwoodchuck (02-01-2019)
This is a horrible phase.
Remember: God made them really cute so you do not kill them.
My last pup was horrible about biting. Lasted for over three weeks and nothing I did seemed to help, nothing. And I tried everything, several times. There were days I got home from work and sat in the car because I really did not want to go inside, let her out and have to deal with her. My arms and legs were covered with scabs, pants torn… It was horrible.
Finally one day, she just stopped. Like using a light switch, just stopped never to return.
For her, it turned out she just had too much ‘enthusiasm’, overactive. She required many hours of outside, run like a nut, destroy trees activity until she was over two years old. Her biting phase was when she turned from a nice, docile puppy into the overactive puppy stage.
I adjusted my schedule and needed to take her outside, every day, for hours. She needed to release all that extra energy. When she started puppy classes I had to take her to the lake for 2 ˝ hours minimum before class or she was just out of control. Even then she had ‘attention issues’ where she still wanted to just go-go-go! And could not sit for any length of time with other activities going on around her.
I remember letting her out of the enclosure and running to the door, going outside and just running, with her chasing me. I would run down the path, through the woods until I came to the creek and her favorite trees to destroy. I would keep pushing sticks into her mouth until she got the hint, then I let her run wild.
She turned out to be a great companion, it just took realizing her special needs for activity level.
I have no firm suggestion other than to say hang in there, it will stop, really it will. When it is over she will suddenly be ready to go through another growing lab stage, be ready.
Beth C (02-01-2019)
Yes, this!! I went through the same thing with Lido. He was terrible at mouthing when he was younger. He's finally getting better now, but he's still a work in progress, especially with visitors. He's currently in an evening puppy class at the same place where he goes to daycare 2x weekly. I make sure he goes to daycare on class day, so he can behave during class, lol. A tired lab puppy is a better lab puppy!
Wwwoodchuck (02-02-2019)
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