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    Since day one getting a lab, they have all been older. By older I mean 7+ years. Our first was Potion, 9 years old. She had to have a C-section and had a rough time and breeder did not want her to go through that again. I had already built a relationship with this breeder and there was no cost. I did have to have her spayed which as a little more challenging because of scar tissue from the C-section.

    Our second, Melody was 10 years old. She did not need to be spayed as she had been because of pyometia surgery. Her breeder and Potion's breeder knew each other so I think they exchanged info about me. It was $300 for her; as her breeder said, she does not give dogs away.

    Bandit came from Potion's breeder at 7 years old. Beautiful lab who did not like the show ring and was not too successful at breeding. We did have to have him neutered and came to us at no cost. Again, I had built a great relationship with the breeder.

    Mardi joined us at about 8 years old. She had to be spayed. She had some arthritis in her back legs already. Again, I believe breeders chat amount themselves as she came to us at no cost.

    Don't know why but I'm not getting a great feeling about the breeder you are talking about. The eye thing worries me.

    All our labs came with fantastic house manners, crate trained, walked great on a leash, etc. Even so, each one went to basic obedience class which helped with bonding. Guess we have been very lucky with the breeders we have a relationship with. That's where I'll be looking in the spring to get another.

    Of course, this is different than getting a much younger dog as far as cost. Just my 2 cents worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JenC View Post
    They do have the dog spayed before it goes to the new home. But they want to be reimbursed for the fee. And usually they don't alter the dog until it's placed.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenC View Post
    They do have the dog spayed before it goes to the new home. But they want to be reimbursed for the fee. And usually they don't alter the dog until it's placed.
    The OP didn't say it was already done, the way I was reading it sounded like they wanted the money for the dog and an extra 500 to get it altered. Maybe I read it wrong lol.

    And why not get it altered before placing it? If they don't want to breed that is.

    Like i said I am no breeder lol. And I may be reading it wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pogie View Post
    The OP didn't say it was already done, the way I was reading it sounded like they wanted the money for the dog and an extra 500 to get it altered. Maybe I read it wrong lol.
    No, you read it right.


    And why not get it altered before placing it? If they don't want to breed that is.
    Just my thought; if someone doesn't come around with $2500. you can breed her again. $$

    Like i said I am no breeder lol. And I may be reading it wrong
    Personally I would have no problem with agreeing to and paying the spay fee, but not trusting me to get it done at my vet would be a red flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie View Post
    Personally I would have no problem with agreeing to and paying the spay fee, but not trusting me to get it done at my vet would be a red flag.

    a LOT of people will say they will get to it and NOT get to it (either they are lying or just "stuff happens" and they meant to but never got around to it). I think the breeder absolutely SHOULD do it on their own prior to re-homing the (adult) dog.

    I assume they mean the breeder will have the spay done but is separating the cost of the dog from the cost of the spay (so buyer pays both)

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    We are in north Jersey. We adopted a 4 year old pure bred chocolate lab a few years ago. The shelter included her spay in the adoption fee of $375. Go on petfinder or adopt-a-pet and find yourself a great, older dog and save a couple of lives. Please adopt, don't shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewbert View Post
    We are in north Jersey. We adopted a 4 year old pure bred chocolate lab a few years ago. The shelter included her spay in the adoption fee of $375. Go on petfinder or adopt-a-pet and find yourself a great, older dog and save a couple of lives. Please adopt, don't shop.
    That "adopt don't shop" rhetoric comes directly from radical animal rights activists (PETA, HSUS etc...) whose only goal is to eradicate companion animal (and food and fiber animal etc... etc...) ownership entirely. They are doing their best to making breeding difficult, expensive and next to impossible to do, so then after all the animals in the shelter are adopted, then what? Where will your kids or grandkids get dogs from? What if they want a purebred dog?

    Did you know that shelters and rescue are big business now? They import dogs from out of the country to satisfy the demand for dogs for people to adopt. This has brought dog diseases from other countries that wasn't here, and has put many dogs at risk, as well as many dogs that aren't mentally stable enough for adoption, but people try to 'save' them anyways.

    We still have a choice of where to aquire a pet dog, some people like the predictability of a purebred dog, that looks like what they are expecting, has the temperament they are expecting, the coat and size they are expecting, etc... That they can purchase from a breeder. Other can choose to adopt an animal that needs a home from a shelter or rescue or pound, and know that with that choice, they aren't complete sure what they are getting, but feel good about their choice. Either way is fine as long as the dogs are loved, and taken care of, and cherished as loving animal companions. I myself have had several adopted cats, and 2 dogs. I also have purebred Labradors, and I adore the breed.

    Repect for the hard work that breeders do to retain a breed, raise puppies well and take great care of them has deceased over the past 10 years or so. The animal right activists and all those sad tevelvision commercials are working, be careful what you ask for, because you may not have a choice in the future. It used to be cool to own a purebred dog that you bought from a breeder, got on their list and brought home an 8-12 week old puppy to raise. In some circles it still is, thankfully, but to be shamed for making the decision to buy from a breeder is terrible. You have a choice, but don't shame others for theirs.

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    Well, she is sweet. We are crossing our fingers and getting her. i am not opposed to paying for a quality family dog with a great temperament and good health. I am not opposed to paying for the spaying and having the dog taken care of by the breeder during the recovery. And, I know that clearances cost the breeder some. I also know that the breeder lost many puppies during her second breeding when there was an issue with the C-section. Based on our first meeting, she is a very sweet and gentle dog and my 8 year old daughter fell in love with her. I do think that we are paying a little too much for her. We should certainly get the same "warranty" that one would get with a new puppy. The only training I think she has had, though is house-training and walking on a leash. Her socialization and the fact that up till now she does not have any anxiety when left alone are also important. i am excited about bringing her home. I was looking for another dog, but my wife jumped on her. I would have attempted to find one that was no more than $1700 (with spaying included), but that didn't happen. Had an opportunity to get a spayed 8 year old for $500 but my wife wanted a younger one. 3-4 seems about the right age that we were looking for. This forum seems to be very nice, and i thank you all for your input.

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    The more research I do I am totally against any organization that puts alot of pics of dogs in shelter down south
    Then u pay the dog transport company 150 for a drop off directly and 500 - 800 bucks for a organization that picks the dog from this shelter and puts in a transport crate .

    Hate saying this but while chatting at the local dog park people tell me they feel guilty buying from the breeder and not adopting. I am shocked.i even see back yard breeders referring to please adopt this puppy in ads.


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