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    This thread was started from some-one who had NEVER posted before and gave very limited information about wanting to re-home a dog after 8 years, not 8 days. The advice given doesn't look offensive and is varied. So it seems a little premature and against the very first point Woody made in his welcome thread for a member to tell other members to zip it !

    Whether this person returns is so insignificant if all they want is to re-home, the internet provides rescue/re-home websites. This is a discussion forum board and so telling others to "hold their tongue" is incredulous. If this person re-homes their dog they are certainly not interested in becoming an ongoing member and returning to the forum.

    If we hold our tongues there is not much more we can offer this person apart from advertising/informing of rescue facilities etc which the OP would be able to access without joining this discussion forum. the OP has given very little info and has not returned - clearly re-home is the agenda and not discussion.

    Woody's posted words:
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    1. If you ask for advice or an opinion be prepared to get it even if it's no what you want to hear. I have seen lots of new members ask for advice and then throw a fit when they don't get back want they want to hear.

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    In addition:
    There are only 3 other threads with people asking to re-home their dogs and two of the three threads have ONLY ONE response...eg. Good luck with your re-home. So this thread certainly exceeds by far the usual one response AND the posters DON'T COME BACK SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT THEM NOT coming back.

    To avoid discussion and comments it should be an advertisement section where any member that is interested can contact the poster privately for more information rather than on a discussion forum and then disallow discussion.
    If it is a section for people To JUST advertise then I am happy not to make any comment, but why have a public discussion thread?

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    Who knows what led to the dog needing a new home. Service member being deployed? A sick family member? Regardless we are here for our love of Labs and / or dogs in general. By letting the discussion go negative the DOG got little to no help.

    Personally I agree with the popular opinion in this thread. But the thing that scared me most when I was dealing with Cancer was the care of my dogs. Not my kids or wife.

    Yes, I was most concerned of my dogs. Why? Because other family members would gladly help with the kids. Not so much my dogs. My wifes family thinks of pets as property at best, more often a nuisance. So if things went a bit worse with my cancer well meaning family members may have posted a similar topic, if I was lucky. More than likely my dogs would have been dropped at a shelter.

    Just my thoughts having dealt withand faced a real situation that could have put my dogs in this situation.

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    Well, I guess this will be one more dog going to a shelter.

    I find it very significant if the poster does not return because that means the dog probably ends up at a shelter instead of finding a home or rescue group. Others who may be in dire circumstances will read the responses and decide not to post, not to join, and instead take their dog to a shelter since this group doesn't seem compassionate. There were some decent suggestions but the bulk of responses were negative.

    There were very few questions asked about the dog such as: crate trained, potty trained, what commands, how much obedience training has been done, is the dog good with kids, older people, with men, with women, what issues does the dog have, and I could go on.

    It is sad that the major focus was on judging the decision to rehome instead of giving specific rescue contacts like we used to. Telling someone to google rescues really isn't that helpful. They joined, came here asking for help. Asking for help is difficult for most people when it concerns something serious, like giving up their dog.

    This section used to pull together and help people needing to rehome their dog, even if they just joined the forum to specifically ask for help in rehoming.

    This section is the sad section of people having some event or life circumstance that causes them to have to give up their dog. The rescue section used to work miracles in finding forever homes or rescue groups to take dogs that needed to be rehomed. A few dogs ended up staying with the owners after we figured out that there was an issue with the dog. But that required dialogue, not just giving opinions that the owner was a "bad" owner and this is why they suck. Everyone who posts is significant, at least they should be.

    No one is going to air everything going on in their life or specifics about why they are rehoming their dog. After 8 yrs I am sure it wasn't an easy decision, I would hope not. Bad things happen in life, houses get foreclosed, people get laid off, people get sick, kids gets sick, etc.

    I had a dog that I bred that came back to me when the owner's child got cancer and they needed to go out of state for an unknown amount of time for treatments. I held the dog for over 6 months, they did get their dog back from me but if I had not been that type of breeder? They would have had to rehome their dog. Bad things, things most of us don't consider or want to think about happen to people. A little empathy, a little compassion goes a long way.

    I would rather be able to help the dog find a new home or find a place in a rescue group than give my opinion about what I think concerning the decision. To me, the dog is more important than my ability to give my opinion about the decision/person.

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    The OP hasn't been back here since the time of her second post. Just like the majority that look for "advice" on rehoming their dogs. They never ask advice, by the way, just post it as an ad.

    You're correct, Laura, in that most people won't give all the info about why they're rehoming. But sad to say, it's usually more like the dog is too old, they want a puppy instead. Puppies, after all, are cuter. There's possibly a health issue with the dog, and they don't want to deal with it. Maybe the dog is incontinent, and they don't like that. Or the dog, that they never trained, gets into the garbage. Or breaks their chain and runs off. Or barks too much.

    I just got through reading Dogtripping, about a mystery writer who started a rescue for goldens (primarily), and ended up keeping (and moving from California to Maine with 25) most of the older, unadoptable ones. One that stands out in my mind, is he and his wife were at a shelter to pull a Golden, when a man walked in with his son, returning a dog they'd had for 8 years, because he was getting old, and going right back to the kennel area to pick out a new puppy.

    So while in some cases, there is a legitimate reason, for the great majority, particularly with those from the southern states, dogs are considered disposable property, to be dumped whenever. By no means do I mean all, but the fact is, we have few adoptable dogs in the shelters up here, and our shelters import the dumped dogs from the southern states. Plus breed rescues have no problem adopting up here, either.

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    Never mind - to delete if possible.

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    I can think of many valid reasons to give up a dog if it's doing what's best for the dog. A dog home alone 12-14 hours needs more. People's situations change. Nobody has to come on here and give all the details of why they have to give up their dog, it's personal. Many dogs are given up for the wrong reasons but imo, if they are given up for the wrong reasons, then they likely should not be with that family to start with. So, why not just give advice on rescues, where to post an ad, you should spay the dog and leave it at that.
    While some say they would live in a tent to keep their dog, does that mean you would do the same if you have children? Uproot your whole family to live in a tent and eat scraps for a dog. I would find my dog a new home that could better provide for it. That's what I would do.

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    Okay I see it as more significant that some potential dog owner reads this thread or has a discussion like this with a dog owner and reconsiders getting a dog because they realize that dogs are not disposable or require more responsibility than they are prepared to give.


    The statistics are that regardless if this one dog was rescued, that even if every man, woman and child took in a dog from a shelter/rescue that there is still an excess of dogs in the 100s of MILLIONS. Why do you think there is a new shelter or rescue opening up on regular basis? In our highly disposable and highly consumeristic society this atrocious cycle will continue until dogs are seen more as family members and less as a disposable item or addition to the family.



    Thinking about when I was a kid there were no shelters and of course dog ownership was significantly lower. And there were many financially poor people with dogs too...


    Timing....I saw a sticker on a car the other day at the supermarket and it said rather stridently "DON'T BUY A DOG FROM a breeder GO TO a RESCUE"! Grrrr...Yes it's wonderful to rescue a dog and give it a good home but don't think that this is EVER going to fix the problem of too many unwanted dogs disposed of every day around the world.

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    This is oh so sad....

    BUT...None of us here know what is really going on in this family. She is saying that they can not afford Vet care...and there were times that this poor dog needed medical attention and most likely, did not receive it.

    Re-homing this dog may be in the BEST INTEREST of the dog.

    TO THE OP:

    Please come back to this thread and at least let us try to help you. PLEASE DO NOT BRING YOUR DOG TO A SHELTER.

    I am very sorry you are going through this...I can't even imagine.

    Please think about what is best for your dog...Can we help you?

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    Looking to re-home an 8 year old lab

    Sorry to hear of your unfortunate turn of events. If you need help with Sadie contact GARD (Georgia Animal Rescue & Defense) in Pembroke, GA. I know they're not close to you but they may be able to take her and provide transport to the Northeast where she can get a good home. I'm associated with two no-kill shelters in New Jersey who pull dogs from Georgia and Louisiana regularly.

 



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