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    Glad to here things are improving.

    I agree, quality over quantity.

    Regarding the Metacam, perhaps look online and talk to your vet about tummy issues. Sam's dad was on Metacam long term and it ate a hole in his stomach causing some issues that eventually took his life. I don't know if that is common or if the owner was using it off-label or wasn't careful or what the entire story was -- and don't want to be an alarmist -- but I'm thinking that if this is the case, taking the med with a certain food or something may have helped. Sounds like something that could have been avoided, but just thought I'd throw it out there.

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    Great news your gorgeous boy is doing better and things are improving for him. Like other posters, I am a strong advocate of quality over quantity and sometimes dogs will amaze you with their resilience with the right treatment just when you think things are bleak for them.

    A few years back, when I adopted Tournie, a beautiful black lab senior boy who I found in a pound a month shy of his 10th birthday in terrible condition. He was very overweight and arthritic, terrible ear infection and eye problems. I adopted him with a view to tend to all his health issues and make him as comfortable as possible for the best qualify of life for his remaining time. Not only did he respond positively to the treatment for his arthritis (cartrophen injections, jointguard powder and fish oil tablets and weight loss with progressively increased amounts of daily exercise) and treatment for his other health issues, he far exceeded the time I thought he would have, living to a ripe old age of 15 yrs 7mths old in pretty good health until around the last week of his life and I was so grateful that he got to live such a long life considering the condition I found him in.

    Hope Rocky continues to do well and and sending lots of best wishes and positive thoughts his way for the longest quality of life for him. It can be difficult dealing with the aging of our beloved seniors who are very special but you are doing the very best you can for your beloved boy and he knows he is very loved. to you both.

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    Sweet!

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    Thanks everyone. I wouldn't let him live in pain that's for sure, just worried. I'll try to upload a short video of him and pen yesterday

    I'll look into milk thistle thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Labradorks View Post
    Glad to here things are improving.

    I agree, quality over quantity.

    Regarding the Metacam, perhaps look online and talk to your vet about tummy issues. Sam's dad was on Metacam long term and it ate a hole in his stomach causing some issues that eventually took his life. I don't know if that is common or if the owner was using it off-label or wasn't careful or what the entire story was -- and don't want to be an alarmist -- but I'm thinking that if this is the case, taking the med with a certain food or something may have helped. Sounds like something that could have been avoided, but just thought I'd throw it out there.
    Yeah it's on my mind. My vet had discussed this with me awhile back. his stomach issues are on and off, but I can also be paranoid when I am looking/worried for side effects. The fact that pen ends up with issues around the same time as Rocky has kept me from making more out of it. Sometimes he licks his lips but it's hard to say if I pick up on that more because I know it could be an issue? It could be due to many things. it's gone down though. so hard with side effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanya View Post
    Yeah it's on my mind. My vet had discussed this with me awhile back. his stomach issues are on and off, but I can also be paranoid when I am looking/worried for side effects. The fact that pen ends up with issues around the same time as Rocky has kept me from making more out of it. Sometimes he licks his lips but it's hard to say if I pick up on that more because I know it could be an issue? It could be due to many things. it's gone down though. so hard with side effects.
    When people give horses pain killers thy often accompany it with an ulcer medicine (which I think is an expensive paste form of omeprazole). I wonder if this is an option?

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    yes he mentioned it but it was well over $50/mt for the stomach pills! so not something I can afford to willy nilly try unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanya View Post
    yes he mentioned it but it was well over $50/mt for the stomach pills! so not something I can afford to willy nilly try unfortunately.
    Did you ask about omeprazole? I know a lot of horse people who used that (for humans) versus the horse stuff. Also, aloe vera juice, which I am assuming can't hurt.

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    rocky and penny this weekend (video)

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    i did not get the name of the med, just the one he recommended was very expensive. i'll revisit and see what thr options are.

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    Heck, he's still got moves!!!!!!

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    It is generally accepted that Meloxicam (metacam) has less potential for side effects as Rimadyl, used long-term. Meloxicam is more specific for cox2 prostaglandins which makes it a bit safer. There is still interference with the mucoid lining of the GI tract which is the reason behind the GI side effects. The critical point is never give meloxicam on an empty stomach or squirt it in the dog's mouth. It should be given with a full meal only, this is why it comes in a liquid form. Many people have switched to the human generic meloxicam because it is much less expensive. It comes in a tablet form and must be given after a full meal to prevent stomach erosions. Another option I have been using for chronic pain is called T-relief for arthritis. This used to be called Zeel for arthritis which is a homeopathic remedy used in humans. The company was bought out and the name changed but it is still the same. In England, they did a study and compared the effectiveness of T-relief against both Rimadyl and Metacam. After 30 days the results were the same if not better than the NSAIDs. The benefit is that because it is a homeopathic remedy, there are no potential for side effects. Another supplement I have been using is called Wobenzym. Might Google it. The joint supplement most of us have been using is called Cetyl-M. That is the latest news for chronic pain that I can offer. Don't forget acupuncture. It is great for chronic pain.

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