Pet safe Safety pins?

[SunDance]

First, I think that any protester would have been well-advised to remember what yesterday was, and to honor those that gave them the right to march in the streets!
And if they're still so unhappy with this country I wish all of them would go to China or North Korea and protest there!

YOU are the one who first mentioned protesters. That is not the gist of this thread.

[Bernie]

YOU are the one who first mentioned protesters. That is not the gist of this thread.

Really?

"I ordered a button from etsy that says Trump is not my president (small black button, name in red). Passive protest"

I guess passive doesn't count to you.

[SunDance]

Whatever, Bernie....you're right, as always.

[kimbersmom]

First, I think that any protester would have been well-advised to remember what yesterday was, and to honor those that gave them the right to march in the streets!
And if they're still so unhappy with this country I wish all of them would go to China or North Korea and protest there!

I don't understand your posts. First the safety pin is not about the protests. Second, veterans fought for our freedoms, including the freedom to protest. If you're unhappy that people express the right to protest, then you should go to China or North Korea, where protesting is not allowed.

As for buttons- yes, you can go get a "Trump is my president" button. Exercise your freedom of expression, just like SunDance.

[Bamps]

many good, good people died and sacrificed for the right to peaceful protest in the USA. The guy I voted for recently did not get elected either, Donald Trump did. I did not vote for Obama but when a foreigner called him a "loathsome creature", I got PO'd BIG TIME! Both are my president, that's democracy.

[Jeff]

Really?

"I ordered a button from etsy that says Trump is not my president (small black button, name in red). Passive protest"

I guess passive doesn't count to you.

You need to actually read, the safety pin is not anti Trump.

Unfortunately, Trumps election to the presidency has emboldened many people to perform a lot of pretty heinous acts, many white men who think they are somehow superior are now out thinking it is ok to attack muslem, jewish people and anyone not with the same color skin as them. They are also forcing themselves on women as well by just walking up and grabbing them where Trump said to grab them, this includes white women. Somehow they think electing him somehow made this behavior acceptable. This has now caused a lot of fear from people. The safety pin is a symbol, not against Trump but to let those that may fear you or your intentions that you mean them no harm and you also do not agree with the actions of those people.

If you support Trump or not, racism is wrong, intimidation and bullying is wrong. The safety pin simply symbolizes, and lets people know you feel that way and you are a safe person. It doesn't mean you don't support the man elected president but you don't support the bigotry and violence that some of his supporters now think is acceptable. Now if your support of Trump somehow mean that to you, that racism or hatred of people just because they have different beliefs than you is ok, well then yes I guess it is an anti Trump symbol, but it is not about that. It is not a symbol of protest at all but a symbol that people I encounter do not need to fear me or be in fear while I am around.

[Bamps]

You need to actually read, the safety pin is not anti Trump.

Unfortunately, Trumps election to the presidency has emboldened many people to perform a lot of pretty heinous acts, many white men who think they are somehow superior are now out thinking it is ok to attack muslem, jewish people and anyone not with the same color skin as them. They are also forcing themselves on women as well by just walking up and grabbing them where Trump said to grab them, this includes white women. Somehow they think electing him somehow made this behavior acceptable. This has now caused a lot of fear from people. The safety pin is a symbol, not against Trump but to let those that may fear you or your intentions that you mean them no harm and you also do not agree with the actions of those people.

If you support Trump or not, racism is wrong, intimidation and bullying is wrong. The safety pin simply symbolizes, and lets people know you feel that way and you are a safe person. It doesn't mean you don't support the man elected president but you don't support the bigotry and violence that some of his supporters now think is acceptable. Now if your support of Trump somehow mean that to you, that racism or hatred of people just because they have different beliefs than you is ok, well then yes I guess it is an anti Trump symbol.

i haven't heard about that one, that's pretty disgusting!! To all those bigots out there I say, better get your DNA done because you may be in for a few surprises.

[Bernie]

You need to actually read, the safety pin is not anti Trump.

Unfortunately, Trumps election to the presidency has emboldened many people to perform a lot of pretty heinous acts, many white men who think they are somehow superior are now out thinking it is ok to attack muslem, jewish people and anyone not with the same color skin as them. They are also forcing themselves on women as well by just walking up and grabbing them where Trump said to grab them, this includes white women. Somehow they think electing him somehow made this behavior acceptable.

First off, you have nothing to substantiate those claims, some people will believe anything.
Secondly I don't need pins, badges or signs, Rocco and I are old-fashioned; we talk to them!
You would have found us doing that on Veterans Day and you will the next time our paths cross.

[Sue]

First off, you have nothing to substantiate those claims, some people will believe anything.
Secondly I don't need pins, badges or signs, Rocco and I are old-fashioned; we talk to them!
You would have found us doing that on Veterans Day and you will the next time our paths cross.

Unfortunately, it is true. I can give you various links to read, but I'm sure you won't. Even here in Maine, where I live, there have been women targeted, particularly if they have a Clinton bumper sticker. One man pulled up next to a woman in a car and pointed a gun at her, mouthing, "You're next."

Here's one that happened at Baylor University, and mentions the safety pin, also.

A Trump Supporter Called This Student A N***** Winning Democrats

I can't get the video to load, but the story is there.

I also cannot understand why you're so hostile. If you don't want to wear a safety pin to indicate you're a safe harbor, that's fine. Why do you have to be so nasty about this post? If you don't agree with it, quit commenting!

By the way, I personally would never ever consider you a safe person to talk to.

[Jeff]

First off, you have nothing to substantiate those claims, some people will believe anything.

Once again you fail to read the very first post, there are links to news stories, these have link to photos, police reports and so on. People are being harassed, people being attacked. You can not just bury your head in the sand. It may not be happening where you live, but it is happening. If you like it or not, a great many hate groups are Trump supporters. Feel free to go to any KKK website right now. They are celebrating Trumps election en mass and claiming he legitimizes them and their beliefs.

Ready any news website
The Ku Klux Klan says it will hold a Trump victory parade in North Carolina - LA Times

Trumps Group themselves condemn their actions
Trump camp, N.C. GOP condemn KKKs plan to hold victory parade for president-elect - Washington Times

However like it or not it is happening. Not just the KKK but hate groups everywhere.

Secondly I don't need pins, badges or signs, Rocco and I are old-fashioned; we talk to them!

I see, and who is them? The fact you have an idea in your mind that there is a "them" say you already have an idea of there are people that you can isolate and you feel you need to talk to them. Why do you need to treat a "Them" differently? That's a problem right there. The safety pin is for anyone that is scared, all races, all religions, all people. Look up the meaning of the safety pin, again in the original links in the original thread.

You would have found us doing that on Veterans Day and you will the next time our paths cross.

Not sure what this even means?