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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMountainCoal View Post
    While I completely agree that the owners are usually at fault, not the dogs, they are a very powerful breed that can cause a lot of damage. Coal and I were attacked by a pit bull yesterday while leaving my friends apartment. I now have two deep punctures in my hand and Coal's face is a mess. The owner kept trying to pull her dog back while he was still attached to Coal's face and I had to scream at her to knock it off. She then completely let go of her dog. I had to hold Coal still so he wouldn't try to pull away and I literally had to punch this dog in the face to get it to release it's jaw. People who do not know how to handle powerful dog breeds have no business owning a bully breed of any kind. Now I have a very hurt puppy, a very hurt hand, and my back is a bleeping mess. I reported the incident to the complex manager and they assured me that the dog would be gone within the next few days.....

    While, I don't believe that breed banning is the answer to the problem, something needs to be done....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMountainCoal View Post
    While I completely agree that the owners are usually at fault, not the dogs, they are a very powerful breed that can cause a lot of damage. Coal and I were attacked by a pit bull yesterday while leaving my friends apartment. I now have two deep punctures in my hand and Coal's face is a mess. The owner kept trying to pull her dog back while he was still attached to Coal's face and I had to scream at her to knock it off. She then completely let go of her dog. I had to hold Coal still so he wouldn't try to pull away and I literally had to punch this dog in the face to get it to release it's jaw. People who do not know how to handle powerful dog breeds have no business owning a bully breed of any kind. Now I have a very hurt puppy, a very hurt hand, and my back is a bleeping mess. I reported the incident to the complex manager and they assured me that the dog would be gone within the next few days.....

    While, I don't believe that breed banning is the answer to the problem, something needs to be done....
    Yikes! I hope you are both ok, physically and emotionally. That is so scary. Did you report to animal control? Did you go to the doctor and vet? My worst nightmare.

    Where I live, we don't have a big thug population (compared to some other states), but there are thugs. And many do have pits. However, we are a very compassionate state, a very liberal state, and many of these re-habbed dogs and their puppies end up in the hands of some very, very loving and well-meaning people. These people think that it's the people raising them, not the breed. In the whole nature versus nurture puzzle, they seem to believe that nurture always wins. Or maybe it's just rose-colored glasses. But these are very powerful dogs with very powerful genetic instincts and these dogs were bred by taking the toughest male and the toughest female and putting them together to make really tough puppies or it was random -- who knows.

    Pits in the wrong hands are the number one reason we do not go to dog parks or off-leash areas with the rare exception and only when there will be minimal numbers of people and dogs, to decrease our chances of running into well-meaning people with dogs that were bred to fight and kill. I cannot tell you how many times I have personally seen a pit puppy born into foster care, loved, then placed at 8 weeks of age into a loving home, go from a friendly, sweet pup, to a young dog that cannot be trusted with other animals. Then, sadly, I never see that owner again. Or, worse, they keep coming, keep thinking it was a one-time thing. Or that the dog was "just playing."

    While I'm not sure that the breed should be banned because I'm not sure that even works or what it will mean going forward for dog owners, I do think there should be some type of regulation that is enforced. Often, when we make things illegal it just creates a dangerous black market. I could see pits getting banned so then the worst of the worst is breeding them in basements, and selling them on some kind of a black market. Not that it's not happening now, but at least there is SOME transparency.

    I don't know what the answer is, either...

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    I would never get a pit bull... not the dogs for me. I have met quite a few that are very loving and sweet. I have also met many that are not loving and not sweet. My biggest problem with them is that they tend to be dog aggressive, so I'm more cautious around a pit bull than another breed of dog. I'm the same way with any terrier, actually.

    I'm not sure I agree with banning them. I think they need to be restricted to seasoned dog owners, and anyone with a pit bull needs to take an education class on the potential damages that these dogs can do. They can be extremely dangerous, and owners need to be responsible and know that their dog was bred for decades to be aggressive towards other dogs. It's now in their genes, just like retrieving or herding. I have a horse, which are dangerous animals purely because of their size and strength. I always put my hand on my horse's behind when I walk behind him, always wear a helmet, and know at all times that this is an enormous animal that could kill me. Responsibility and knowledge are superpowers.
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    Las Vegas has a huge pitbull problem. 80% of the dogs in our shelters are pitbull or some sort of pitbull mix. Its sickening

    I know quite a few who are wonderful dogs. We are doing a prosthetic leg at work at the moment for a little 10 month old who was severely abused. He is the sweetest dog with a wonderful temperament. My brother owns a mix who has grown up with his 4 children, 3 other dogs and my dogs, again a wonderful dog

    Its the thug owners who are the problem, not the breed. Breed restrictions isnt the answer, getting rid of the scum people who destroy these animals sounds more reasonable to me

    But with all that said, my dogs do not go to dog parks and I keep them as far away from bully breeds as I can. Its sad but I cant trust the majority of people who own these dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMountainCoal View Post
    While I completely agree that the owners are usually at fault, not the dogs, they are a very powerful breed that can cause a lot of damage. Coal and I were attacked by a pit bull yesterday while leaving my friends apartment. I now have two deep punctures in my hand and Coal's face is a mess. The owner kept trying to pull her dog back while he was still attached to Coal's face and I had to scream at her to knock it off. She then completely let go of her dog. I had to hold Coal still so he wouldn't try to pull away and I literally had to punch this dog in the face to get it to release it's jaw. People who do not know how to handle powerful dog breeds have no business owning a bully breed of any kind. Now I have a very hurt puppy, a very hurt hand, and my back is a bleeping mess. I reported the incident to the complex manager and they assured me that the dog would be gone within the next few days.....

    While, I don't believe that breed banning is the answer to the problem, something needs to be done....
    So sorry to hear. Hope you and pup are feeling better soon. Scary situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoeysMommy View Post

    Its the thug owners who are the problem, not the breed. Breed restrictions isnt the answer, getting rid of the scum people who destroy these animals sounds more reasonable to me
    I think most people would agree with this, but the problem is it is far more expensive/time consuming and there are issues with freedoms and rights when you restrict people. Banning or restricting the breed is the simpler and cheaper solution, unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archie View Post
    I think most people would agree with this, but the problem is it is far more expensive/time consuming and there are issues with freedoms and rights when you restrict people. Banning or restricting the breed is the simpler and cheaper solution, unfortunately.

    While problems cannot be eliminated there is a certain demographic that only makes up 10-12% of the population yet they account for nearly 60% of crimes involving guns. This...demographic is also the primary owner of violent pit bulls.

 



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