I may have to staple my mouth closed

[4Thelove]

You are such a good friend!

[sheltieluver]

I feel your pain my mil just got a puppy a (jug) eye roll. These are the people who complain about having no money and complained when their cat became blocked and they made payments at the vet only bc I work there. They let the dogs do whatever they want and don't train them. Of course they ask me but when I tell them they don't listen and I'm so mean and they could never do that. Which is why their 1 year old pug mix is a basket case when they leave and poops in his crate. Thierry house smells like amonia because they don't clean their cat boxes. It's so gross. Best is just keep your mouth shut bc you will just stress yourself out.

[bett]

I can really appreciate the frustration, particularly since you have known her for a long time. Hopefully when things go pear shaped with the pup (and it does sound like they will - it's just what the shape the pear comes in) she listens to your advice. And I hear you on the stapling - I've been in positions in the past with know it all's, and I've decided to keep my top and bottom lip connected, but have really worried that I'd blurt out the dialogue going on in my head and would have to say "far out did I just say that out loud!"

they will never listen. they hear but don't listen. this isn't a new issue . the last dog was also not from a breeder and i warned her about training a bichon. before she got him. not for you , i said.difficult to house train. and then they refused a crate. IM NOT KEEPING MY DOG IN A CAGE.

ok, then.

[smartrock]

they will never listen. they hear but don't listen. this isn't a new issue . the last dog was also not from a breeder and i warned her about training a bichon. before she got him. not for you , i said.difficult to house train. and then they refused a crate. IM NOT KEEPING MY DOG IN A CAGE.

ok, then.

Sounds like someone I know, whose little 8 pound pooch peed all over her house for 8 years, worse when her daughter brought home a second dog, and he was just generally unfriendly. At one point I found him advertised on Craigslist but by the time I asked her about it, she said she changed her mind. Next thing I knew, he was no longer around. "Where's [your dog]?" "Oh, he had cancer, so we had to put him to sleep." He was 8 years old and she'd had him since he was 8 weeks old. But crate? Oh no, that would have been cruel.

[bett]

the funny thing is, the dog is fine in the crate, but she thinks she cant leave him for more than 2 hours because he's a puppy.
uhm, he's 9 months old and came from a pet store. do you think they were with him at night? or when they closed?

she hasnt left him since she got him so i told her about "separation anxiety" and how she doesn't want to create that.

curious to see what the vet says on monday. let's hope the dog is really 9 months old. first she was told 6 months. magic! it was 9 when she picked him up.

[Shell]

Sounds like she and hubby are very stubborn, and in for another mess! Some people just don't listen, and they refuse to change. The first time, things didn't work. You would think that they would be more open to advice. Pretty soon you'll be hearing that the pup is doing bad things. At that point, if they ask for advice, I would tell them that you've tried and they haven't done any of it. Then throw your hands up, shake your head, and walk away. No one needs that extra drama in their life.

P.S. Hi again, bett!

[bett]

well, for no reason known to me, she got this 8 lb fart a harness.
i had a conversation with her, regarding not leaving the collar on in the crate. so i say "are you leaving the harness on in the crate?"

she replies "oh, he's very smart. he got out of the harness today"

um, no, he's not very smart dumba$$, you didnt make the harness tight enough if the dog could get out of it.

she argued with me, that he stepped out of it because he's smart.

ok, i give, he's smart and you're dumb.

oh yeah, her husband won't walk the dog anymore because he doesn't know how to walk on a leash.
i remind her that he was in a pet store for 9 months never wearing a collar or walking on a leash. and that the only way he will learn is by doing it.

now really, is that believable? someone would think i am making this up.
but you cant make this stuff up.

[Shell]

I'm sorry, but that woman would irritate me to NO END. I would have told that b**** off a long time ago. I'd have gone off on her ABOUT EVERYTHING .... How to train the dog, what she thinks is totally wrong, she's very stubborn, and that she needs to learn how to effing listen. Oops! Put that last part first.

But that's just me. There are two outcomes. Either she will listen, and she will thank you for your guidance & constructive criticism. You two see each other on a regular basis. Or the alternative is that she stays the same and you don't speak to each other ever again.

Pretty tough game, and she's not playing nice or fair at all.

[bett]

they hired a trainer who told her "your friend knows what she is talking about"

so, you think they will listen to a trainer?
i bet she still will do her passive-aggressive stuff with the trainer.

on another note-

i looked up harnesses , as frenchies really should have them bu tell one pulls with all his 25 lbs with the harness,tho i don't want to damage his neck so i ordered a sporn harness for eli, from amazon. they are supposed to be better than the regular ones, in terms of pulling. and oh yeah, he healed in class like a pro.
beast!!!!!!

[arentspowell]

Ugh that sounds infuriating! You're a good friend Betty!