Originally Posted by
Shelley
I just wanted to point out, since no one else did...
That e collars are to reinforce a command the dog already knows. Trying to teach a dog something he doesn't know, by vibrating, or a little, (or a lot!) of shock is just going to confuse the dog, not magically teach them something new.
I really don't like when people compare one dog to another, either one they've had before, or a friend's dog etc... Each dog learns differently, and a technique works with one dog, may, or may not work with another. Train the dog in front of you, in ways that they understand, and seek help if you need it
To the original poster, you need to decide how badly you want your dog to heel, or not pull on the lead, or whatever your goals are, and commit to the time and training it takes to get there. I heard a lot of roadblocks in your posts, as to why he does do this, or won't do that, you need to stop making excuses and train your dog. It may not be easy but it is doable. :-)
I would start with a group training class and a properly fitted prong collar, to get his focus back on you. Prong collars are tools, not a collar for life, so don't use it as crutch, or leave it on him 24/7. Use it for positive rewarded training, and walking, and let the collar correct the dog, and time your praise properly, so he knows when he is a good boy. My best of luck to you!