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    Yeah I think that is the key. On most things he does have impulse control....just not everything. I can drop food on the floor, neither dog will touch it. I can put steak on their paws while they lay down and they won't eat it for a hour if I don't release them to do so. I just need to get back to it. Appreciate the feedback...all good points


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    the issue for the dog is impulse control on walks/seeing another dog. it sounds like everything is fine indoors. you need to slowly increase distractions - but the issue is out and about you are too far up on the distractions level. you have to find something between "in the home" and "on a walk and there's a dog". general impulse control can help. i'll see what i can find later on the topic.

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    It sounds like the underlying issue is over-stimulation and then possibly frustration, not loose leash walking. Dogs can get to a point where they can't think and they have no idea they are doing what they are doing. You have to address the over-stimulation first. If you have a child that goes over the top and address it with punishment, it often results in escalation of the behavior, shutting down and frustration. Just like with a dog, you need to address the behavior, which is really an emotional state not a dog that decided to do the wrong thing, before it becomes an issue. You don't wait for the dog to be in a certain frame of mine and then try to work it out. It sounds like other dogs is your dog's weak area. I would work with a good trainer to work through your dog's issues.

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    Distraction training is a very hard. I used to ignore gigi and never give her command in a distraction rich environment . Now she is better but then the change was slow. She ignores dogs on command and even when she is playing she will come to the car when i ask her from the dog park. You need to start training. it i think builds a line of communication if nothing else. Also let some energy out before training. If after a long week i take gigi to dog park to play she listens better after the initial nuttyness dies down.

    I used a e collar but even in vibrate gigi acted like i killed her, too sensitive
    then i used a chest harness and she was great
    now i used a prong collar. she does not get bothered by it as she know that collar means she is going somewhere fun. i only used it a few times like when i went to bass pro shop or mall situation where the harness is not really give control of the head.

    walking is still a work in progress, just effort, training and actually walking. my wife took her walking after 6 months and said she was great.6 months ago she would have hurt my wife with the pulling and sudden lunges are new smells. she does use the chest harness with her.

    as she is only going to 1 , i cannot tell you its a maturity thing or the training thing .

    good luck

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    I just wanted to point out, since no one else did...

    That e collars are to reinforce a command the dog already knows. Trying to teach a dog something he doesn't know, by vibrating, or a little, (or a lot!) of shock is just going to confuse the dog, not magically teach them something new.

    I really don't like when people compare one dog to another, either one they've had before, or a friend's dog etc... Each dog learns differently, and a technique works with one dog, may, or may not work with another. Train the dog in front of you, in ways that they understand, and seek help if you need it

    To the original poster, you need to decide how badly you want your dog to heel, or not pull on the lead, or whatever your goals are, and commit to the time and training it takes to get there. I heard a lot of roadblocks in your posts, as to why he does do this, or won't do that, you need to stop making excuses and train your dog. It may not be easy but it is doable. :-)

    I would start with a group training class and a properly fitted prong collar, to get his focus back on you. Prong collars are tools, not a collar for life, so don't use it as crutch, or leave it on him 24/7. Use it for positive rewarded training, and walking, and let the collar correct the dog, and time your praise properly, so he knows when he is a good boy. My best of luck to you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelley View Post
    I just wanted to point out, since no one else did...

    That e collars are to reinforce a command the dog already knows. Trying to teach a dog something he doesn't know, by vibrating, or a little, (or a lot!) of shock is just going to confuse the dog, not magically teach them something new.

    I really don't like when people compare one dog to another, either one they've had before, or a friend's dog etc... Each dog learns differently, and a technique works with one dog, may, or may not work with another. Train the dog in front of you, in ways that they understand, and seek help if you need it

    To the original poster, you need to decide how badly you want your dog to heel, or not pull on the lead, or whatever your goals are, and commit to the time and training it takes to get there. I heard a lot of roadblocks in your posts, as to why he does do this, or won't do that, you need to stop making excuses and train your dog. It may not be easy but it is doable. :-)

    I would start with a group training class and a properly fitted prong collar, to get his focus back on you. Prong collars are tools, not a collar for life, so don't use it as crutch, or leave it on him 24/7. Use it for positive rewarded training, and walking, and let the collar correct the dog, and time your praise properly, so he knows when he is a good boy. My best of luck to you!
    I agree with this and would also point out that a group training class is an ideal way to work on the “there’s a dog and I can’t possibly focus” issue in a controlled setting under the guidance of an experienced trainer.
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    I too recommend a group class.i posted a few weeks ago about out training.
    On the first class gigi was so excited he could not ignore other dogs ,toys ,squeaking toys. She could do down touching anothe dog. She also had trouble to the come command through other dogs and people.

    Now 3 classes down she does all of it with alot of work.during and after class.

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