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      That is a good idea! I will let her know.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Meeps83 View Post
      Maybe you could also contact his breeder and ask her about the problem you're having and ask for her recommendations. You did say she wasn't particularly happy he was rehomed, but I think she would be even more upset if he were rehomed again. Shelley, who is also a breeder, has a lot of good info. Forest's breeder may as well. Plus if you can't help Forest with this, she may be willing to take him back and work with him before finding him a different home.
      Yes, definitely involve his breeder at this point no matter what you do next. They may want him back, even if temporarily, to assess him, and decide what should be done next. I know this is what I would want.

      I also forgot to make my point about how dangerous resource guarding is around children, (Thank you Labradorks) this totally changes the game, which is why I suggested you keep your appointment with the qualified Animal Behaviorist. I only posted the Food Bowl Exercises, as an example of how we prevent resource guarding from the start, as puppies, not as an alternative to seeking professional help.

      I tell people that think my puppies are too expensive, to think of buying a puppy as an investment, starting off with a puppy with the best background as possible, and continuing with that puppy with appropriate (breeder) guided training and socialization. I suggest people start a puppy savings account, a little bit at a time, and as a family, I have had a few people come back later and I have honored the price I gave them the first time. They are the best families ever!

      Anyways, good luck and keep us posted.

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      I have contacted the breeder but have heard nothing back from her yet. I don't know that I would be willing for her to take him back, even for awhile at this point. She is several hours away.

      Shelley I agree with you on a good puppy being an investment. I just couldn't get my husband on board with it. He grew up very very poor and I think that is part of it.

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      I just spoke with the breeder and she was very grateful that I let her know what is going on and that we are being proactive. She would also be happy to accept him back if we can't work this out. She has offered a pup at a lower price than normal if we want to give Forest to her. She said she has never dealt with resource guarding toward people with any of her dogs and hasn't heard of any of her pups engaging in that behavior. She seems like a nice lady that loves her dogs.

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      Good luck. We re homed a dog we owned from a pup as he had kid aggression and bit blondes. He was great with our kids but any other kid he will go crazy. Lucky for us a older couple with 4 of his breed and all but took him . We spend 8 months and over 1200 $ on few behaviourist .

      Then we adopted a 2yr old lab which absolutely awesome except for my 6 yr old. He kept growling and we returned him.
      So we went puppy then after a while. Its tough to train kids .

      I have come to the thinking are kids below 8 are tough on dogs. Gigi even though is nutz and plays real rough is very gentle with kids. We did not teach anything .It is he way she is... Maybe genetic no idea. She is a lab Shepard mix .


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      Glad to hear the breeder is being responsive and responsible. (and wow, I need to be more careful when posting with my phone, that last post of mine is terrible to read!! Wish I could edit to fix it up! haha).

      Good luck. It sounds like the dog will be ok either way, if it becomes to big an issue with your kids (and guests) then the breeder is there for the dog.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Melly View Post
      I just spoke with the breeder and she was very grateful that I let her know what is going on and that we are being proactive. She would also be happy to accept him back if we can't work this out. She has offered a pup at a lower price than normal if we want to give Forest to her. She said she has never dealt with resource guarding toward people with any of her dogs and hasn't heard of any of her pups engaging in that behavior. She seems like a nice lady that loves her dogs.
      You know, there is advice given on the internet and still put forth and endorsed by all kinds of dog people that the way to create a dog that is safe around food, with kids and adults, is to mess early with their food. Put your hands in the bowl when they are eating. Take the food away, give the food back. And lots of times, maybe even most times, it can work. BUT, it can fail and when it does it can actually create a resource guarding dog where one might never have developed otherwise. I wonder if this might be the case with the first people who had Forest?

      The advice I followed I got from my Mum, a farm girl, when I was a kid. Leave the dog alone when he is eating. Give him his food and let him eat in peace.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Snowshoe View Post
      You know, there is advice given on the internet and still put forth and endorsed by all kinds of dog people that the way to create a dog that is safe around food, with kids and adults, is to mess early with their food. Put your hands in the bowl when they are eating. Take the food away, give the food back. And lots of times, maybe even most times, it can work. BUT, it can fail and when it does it can actually create a resource guarding dog where one might never have developed otherwise. I wonder if this might be the case with the first people who had Forest?

      The advice I followed I got from my Mum, a farm girl, when I was a kid. Leave the dog alone when he is eating. Give him his food and let him eat in peace.
      What I have been reading about training pups does say that this is not a good method. I was surprised as that is what I was always taught, but it does make sense that it could create anxiety in a dog when their food, toys etc are removed from them.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tanya View Post
      Glad to hear the breeder is being responsive and responsible. (and wow, I need to be more careful when posting with my phone, that last post of mine is terrible to read!! Wish I could edit to fix it up! haha).

      Good luck. It sounds like the dog will be ok either way, if it becomes to big an issue with your kids (and guests) then the breeder is there for the dog.
      I am very relieved that the breeder is being so kind and supportive. It is great to know that Forest has a safe place to go if this can't be worked out.

      I spoke with the behaviorist's office this morning. She is off today but will call me tomorrow. She is also a veterinarian and they took a lot of information from me and are also emailing me a questionnaire. They gave me pricing information for home visits. 75.00 per 30 minutes which isn't to bad I don't think. The phone consultation is free. I'm looking forward to working with her, and am praying she can help us resolve this.

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      Forest is still really new to your family after being rehomed. You got him the first week of July, it looks like, and it's not even the end of August yet. It takes many months (not weeks) for a dog to truly settle in to a new home and feel secure in his new world.
      Would it be appropriate to totally leave him alone and give him space while he eats his meals?
      Why does anyone need to be near him while he eats, especially since his former family seemingly never saw this guarding behavior? No one here knows if the behavior is because of the strange environment, or if the old family only had the baby, and there was no opportunity yet for him to show this behavior around an older child.
      I think this is mostly a question for those who have rescued and spent time with adult dogs coming into their new environments.

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