Aye Mates,
Threads specific to e-collar training always intrigue me with regard to the ignorant commentary spewed by those that have never used one. I have absolutely no trouble with those that choose not to e-collar condition and feel it should be a personal decision, but only done based on the solid foundation of understanding fully the proper use of the e-collar. I will state that there are those individuals that should never pick up an e-collar. Just like a hammer, an e-collar is merely a tool. A hammer misused can inflict major damage. A hammer properly used can aid in building wonderful structures. A hammer is nearly always used in conjunction with other tools and with the knowledge of the user to positively build. Likewise, an e-collar is an extension of other tools utilized initially (a clicker, edible rewards, a lead, a check cord, etc.) those initial tools and proper training and conditioning of desired behaviors first being entrenched without the use of the e-collar. Fairness to the dog is always a cornerstone principle of proper e-collar usage. The e-collar is NEVER an instrument to be used in anger and if one recognizes that potential in themselves they should NEVER pick one up. For all intents and purposes, a slip lead or check cord can also be misused in the wrong hands. I wholeheartedly concur that one should seek the help of a knowledgeable trainer to establish competency in the use of an e-collar prior to making use of one on a K9.
Every dog I work with is trained solidly to competently perform all basic obedience behaviors prior to any conditioning to the e-collar being initiated. As Barry had indicated early on in this thread, the dogs I work with come running over and sit in wait for me to place their e-collars on when they see me pick them up. They have zero fear of the e-collar as they have never been abused with it and see it only as a positive indicator that they are about to work. The methods of training I employ are solidly based on mutual respect betwixt meself and the dogs I work with, a point that I stress to their owners fully. Make no doubt about it, I provide steadfast leadership for the dogs I train and they understand that they are subordinate to me as their trainer / handler, but our relationship[ is one founded and maintained on mutual respect.
My e-collar of choice is the Dogtra Edge RT EXP (expandable unit for use with multiple dogs). The unit is dependable in it's delivery of consistent levels of stimulation, is weather tight, of rugged build, ergonomic, and intuitive in it's overall design. The unit is also quickly charged and holds a charge nicely relative to time utilized. I use one day in and day out.
My own dogs wear their e-collars whilst we train, yet I find it very rare to need to correct them, but I do like the ability to do so at great distances at the precisely timed moment needed.
Cheers,
THE DOG WHISTLER 🍀🇮🇪🇺🇸