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    Quote Originally Posted by barry581 View Post
    I used martingales on both dogs, and they will not stop pulling, at least in my experience. I use martingales because it's almost impossible for the dog to back out of it. It will tighten enough around the neck that it won't pull over their head.

    I do use Herm-Springer prong collars and they will stop pulling if fitted correctly and used properly. The vast majoring of the people I do obedience training with also use prong collars.
    All of this. My dogs eventually graduate to a martingale collar on walks (they tend to accidentally slip their heads out of regular buckle collars), but were all trained using a prong. We used a combination of reward for walking nicely and correction for pulling (light collar pop and "easy" followed by immediate praise when the pulling stops). No matter what equipment you use, it's important to teach them which behaviors you want and which you don't. The prong makes it easier to control them while teaching it so they don't pull you to the ground when they see something they want to get to.
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    Our vet said the Herm-Springer is good if you use it correctly. As an owner is it a difficult thing to use correctly?


    Quote Originally Posted by barry581 View Post
    I used martingales on both dogs, and they will not stop pulling, at least in my experience. I use martingales because it's almost impossible for the dog to back out of it. It will tighten enough around the neck that it won't pull over their head.

    I do use Herm-Springer prong collars and they will stop pulling if fitted correctly and used properly. The vast majoring of the people I do obedience training with also use prong collars.

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    There are just so many prong collars on the market I find it confusing to select the correct one. Martingales are the same. Big selection!



    Quote Originally Posted by Annette47 View Post
    All of this. My dogs eventually graduate to a martingale collar on walks (they tend to accidentally slip their heads out of regular buckle collars), but were all trained using a prong. We used a combination of reward for walking nicely and correction for pulling (light collar pop and "easy" followed by immediate praise when the pulling stops). No matter what equipment you use, it's important to teach them which behaviors you want and which you don't. The prong makes it easier to control them while teaching it so they don't pull you to the ground when they see something they want to get to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmathers View Post
    What was your best method for training not to pull?


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    The only thing I've had to do with any of my dogs is that reverse walking thing. "No pull."/gentle tug. 180 degree turn....about 10 feet. "Let's go"/gentle tug. Back to original direction. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Every now and then a "No. Sit." Still for a while. "Let's go."

    It probably helps that I walk fast usually anyhow...but they learned to go my pace even when slow. Dan is very perceptive. Sunnie figures he knows what he's doing and follows suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDance View Post
    The only thing I've had to do with any of my dogs is that reverse walking thing. "No pull."/gentle tug. 180 degree turn....about 10 feet. "Let's go"/gentle tug. Back to original direction. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Every now and then a "No. Sit." Still for a while. "Let's go."

    It probably helps that I walk fast usually anyhow...but they learned to go my pace even when slow. Dan is very perceptive. Sunnie figures he knows what he's doing and follows suit.
    Yes this is what I am doing too. The reverse slows him down, but then he speed right back up again after a few paces. I am fast walker too. Takes so much patience.


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    So much patience! Stormy’s a pancaker- when I tried switching directions she would go flat on her belly, head on the ground, all 4 legs stretched out like a starfish. Luckily she is easily bribed with cheese.
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    Kimber must be related to Amber! Sounds like exactly what Amber would do!!

    Quote Originally Posted by kimbersmom View Post
    So much patience! Stormy’s a pancaker- when I tried switching directions she would go flat on her belly, head on the ground, all 4 legs stretched out like a starfish. Luckily she is easily bribed with cheese.

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    You know most prong collars, including Herm Sprenger, are martingales. I've used both, went to the HS when Oban was about 8 months old. WE only needed it for less than two years. LAT training helped a lot, from Control Unleashed by Leslie McDevitt.
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    Sorry I meant Stormy!


    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Kimber must be related to Amber! Sounds like exactly what Amber would do!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Our vet said the Herm-Springer is good if you use it correctly. As an owner is it a difficult thing to use correctly?
    They are not difficult to use, but it does need to be fitted properly. Too loose and it doesn't work, too tight and it could Hirt the dog. If your vet is familiar maybe they could show you how to fit and use it.

    This is the one I use. I like the quick release.

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