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    Great reminder for me. Archie and Mardi have gotten a little pushy at the door. I used to have them stay at the edge of the entryway until everyone got inside. For a while now, I have not been enforcing it and both at the same time are a little much for the smaller grans. In the last couple of months when coming home, me standing in the doorway with arms filled with shopping goodies, Archie has jumped up on me, one time forcing me back outside. He does not push-jump, if that makes sense, but gently raises up and puts his paws on me. Well, with trying to hold the storm door open, juggling packages, moving Mardi back, it's too much. Got to get back to reinforcing manners. He has never done it with anyone else except DH and myself but it needs to stop along with crowding the door.

    When Potion joined us, she would jump up in excitement, but straight up never touching us. I was OK with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xracer4844 View Post
    Labs are hugely excited when they get to meet people. They will always be wiggly, happy, excitable balls of energy for basically all their life. All you can do is try your best to channel all that energy a different way!
    DH always says Labs have only one emotion, and that emotion is happiness! ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledip1 View Post
    DH always says Labs have only one emotion, and that emotion is happiness! ;-)
    AGREED! except I feel like my boy feels deep sadness when his bowl is empty.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by xracer4844 View Post
    I train this the exact same way snowshoe has mentioned. I also train the working dogs I work with the same way...although I use deval slip chains and a training tab or leash.

    Labs are hugely excited when they get to meet people. They will always be wiggly, happy, excitable balls of energy for basically all their life. All you can do is try your best to channel all that energy a different way!

    This isn't a great photo, but you can see the deval chain on my boy - they are very very very thin slip chains...NOT choke chains...big difference.
    Thanks for the information. I've never heard of deval chains. I wouldn't exchange their happiness for anything else (with the exception of the jumping)! From a puppy, we've also taught Bobby to carry a toy to greet which might not have happened in the previous cases because we put the toys away (leave them out too long and Bobby will kill them). I just hope I'll get more notice as to the date they arrive so I can spread some toys out and see whether he can channel the energy into his jaws and carry toys around.

    If the toys don't work, I think we'll first use doubledip1's method with holding the knee up. If that doesn't work, we'll do the yank. However, I do think Bobby will look at the knee and just go around and jump on the other side! In addition, the knee up may just be the aid in which Bobby can topple over the guests.

    It's good to see the different methods to train away the jump. Everything I've come across seems to be the "ignore" and "be a tree" tactics which just don't work unless you're tall, tolerant and able to stand your ground against an exuberant, big, jumping Lab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halcyon View Post
    Thanks for the information. I've never heard of deval chains. I wouldn't exchange their happiness for anything else (with the exception of the jumping)! From a puppy, we've also taught Bobby to carry a toy to greet which might not have happened in the previous cases because we put the toys away (leave them out too long and Bobby will kill them). I just hope I'll get more notice as to the date they arrive so I can spread some toys out and see whether he can channel the energy into his jaws and carry toys around.

    If the toys don't work, I think we'll first use doubledip1's method with holding the knee up. If that doesn't work, we'll do the yank. However, I do think Bobby will look at the knee and just go around and jump on the other side! In addition, the knee up may just be the aid in which Bobby can topple over the guests.

    It's good to see the different methods to train away the jump. Everything I've come across seems to be the "ignore" and "be a tree" tactics which just don't work unless you're tall, tolerant and able to stand your ground against an exuberant, big, jumping Lab.
    Totally. My girlfriends parents lab barks whenever the house door is opened. As soon as he sees that it's someone he knows he shuts up, gets the body wiggles, immediately runs away to find a toy, brings it back and just shakes and wiggles against whoever just walked in. He has pretty bad anxiety, and has actually "blacked out" from being so excited not being able to breath.

    You are right, it's easier to deal with if your dog is jumping at you...but when it's someone else who isn't a "dog person" it's pretty difficult for that person to know what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xracer4844 View Post
    You are right, it's easier to deal with if your dog is jumping at you...but when it's someone else who isn't a "dog person" it's pretty difficult for that person to know what to do.
    This. They do want a husky though so I guess it's good practice being around a crazy Lab. I'd imagine a husky would have even more energy and be even heavier if they decide to jump. It was so much easier when he was small. Now that he's big, visitors tend to struggle with remaining confident and standing their ground. For some reason, feeling and projecting confidence always helped in getting across the message whereas fear, just exacerbated it.

    Bobby is just a big teddy bear once the jumping is over. He's still over the moon but once you start petting him, he's wiggling on his back for a belly rub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halcyon View Post
    This. They do want a husky though so I guess it's good practice being around a crazy Lab. I'd imagine a husky would have even more energy and be even heavier if they decide to jump. It was so much easier when he was small. Now that he's big, visitors tend to struggle with remaining confident and standing their ground. For some reason, feeling and projecting confidence always helped in getting across the message whereas fear, just exacerbated it.

    Bobby is just a big teddy bear once the jumping is over. He's still over the moon but once you start petting him, he's wiggling on his back for a belly rub.
    Fear, and "cowering" or bending over, and laughing, or pushing, or even screaming while bent over or WHATEVER, is totally sending wrong signals. To a dog, all that says is PLAY WITH ME, AND BE ROUGHER!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halcyon View Post
    If the toys don't work, I think we'll first use doubledip1's method with holding the knee up. If that doesn't work, we'll do the yank. However, I do think Bobby will look at the knee and just go around and jump on the other side! In addition, the knee up may just be the aid in which Bobby can topple over the guests.
    If he tries to jump on the other side, you just move in a circle with the knee up so you're facing him directly. They really do think twice after they've jumped right into a kneecap! ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledip1 View Post
    If he tries to jump on the other side, you just move in a circle with the knee up so you're facing him directly. They really do think twice after they've jumped right into a kneecap! ;-)
    I like training certain things like this too...not trying to knee them in the head...but stick it out "in the way" and when they bonk themselves just play it off like OH MY GOODNESS WHAT HAPPENED? DID YOU HURT YOURSELF? WHAT DID YOU DO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xracer4844 View Post
    I like training certain things like this too...not trying to knee them in the head...but stick it out "in the way" and when they bonk themselves just play it off like OH MY GOODNESS WHAT HAPPENED? DID YOU HURT YOURSELF? WHAT DID YOU DO?
    That's what we're planning to do if it all works out. Have a feeling that Bobby will just brush it off with that thick skull of his and go back jumping. We shall see.

 



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